posted Thu, 04/26/2012 - 15:15
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rubber particles plz help
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Ok so been running Frankie's gear(good stuff by the way)
Buy I've noticed that the rubber stoppers aren't
Very durable.
so today it was workout time get my prop
Tren a mast p and tne ready.
So here I am inch and a half into my chest
Cc and a half pulled took out to shoot other half
In my other pec and I see something black
And floating around and thought it might of
Been blood so I shook it around and it didn't mix
So I staired for a good while emptied the syringe
And the particle was hard and rubbery.
I checked the vials and discovered the rubber
Particles in my tne vial!:(
Im worried I've might of injected some rubber!
What the hell do I do???
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Frankiethe rubber stopers i use are a silicone stoppers and have to be silicone due to useing eo in the brew
alot of sources or homebrewers dont know that eo is corrocive to rubber and they go ahead and use rubber butly stopers this is not good at all as you can get chemical and dye breakdown in your product.
i see all to often different labs claimieng to use eo but yet they have the stadard rubber butly stoper in there vials? so ...well ..........
i will say my vials and products are 100% sterile and i will put my rep on saying you will not be getting any infection from any gear made by me bro so your safe there
as an ugl i cant have a 100% top pharma quality but i try my upmost very best to make sure the products that go out are of a very high standard ..
what size are you useing to draw?
WTF???
I keep hearing alot of Pharma is thick as grease.
I really think the large variation in half lives people talk about for TestE and Cyp can be a result of the carrier oils and solvents. Pharma grade is designed to be given as a depot shot with the heavier oils being slower to wash into the blood stream where the ester is stripped off the testosterone, make it available for use by the body.
Thinner oils with more solvents wash into the blood stream quicker lowering the overall half life. This is a desirable effect for BB and cycles and not so much for TRT.
YMMV
Although it is easier to draw with a larger needle I have found that they are a bit harsh on the rubber stoppers if say you used a 19g. Efectively they may take a core plug out of the stopper or tare a lump out which can end up in your vial or syringe and eventualy in you! Try Drawing with a 21 to reduce the damage to the stopper and pinning with a 23 or 25
I don't know what oil you are pinning, but assuming from the swelling and pain you are describing, sounds like prop base. I always add a cc of nandrolone or trenbolone pin my chest or calves and never have any soreness or pain. I don't know where your at in your level of gear? But maybe consider?
jasonhmaybe use a smaller syringe to draw with. i know i use a 18 gauge to draw then switch pins to shot, never had a issue with rubber but reading this got me wondering if its a good idea
2 reasons to do it like that as far as I know:
Larger pin Draws faster.
It makes sure the one your pinning with is clean and pointy, (easier, less painfull poke).
jasonhyea i was going to continue swapping pins just might switch to a 20 gauge to draw (18 is a cannon cant believe first trt doc had me pinning with that)thought there might be less risk of drawing up some rubber
He had you pinning with an 18g? Ouch, talk about scar tissue and gushers shit! They don't know as much as they shoud. My doc looked up recommended TRT dosages on his cell phone!!!
Pecs are fine no rubber in it!
feels like regular no pain or lumps on it.
I enjoy shooting there Cuz I get a great squeeze when I workout.
just gotta start slow my friend then build up to cc and a half to2ccs in each pec
ask for a replacement vial, shouldnt have rubber in your oil
You body will break it down over time. I had got in a bad bike crash got rubber glass and rocks all into my body, including muscle tissue. Doctor told me durning recovery that the softer items will be broke down internally, items not capable of being broke down come up to the surface. That was 10 years ago and I still have rock, and glass pieces coming out of my leg
funny looks like a zip and pop it and pull out glass lol.
Thanks bro. That's what I read about! And no rubber:)
Stopped right before it went in. Had 2 little particles floating around in the syringe
or it can become encapsulated also.
You like to scare people huh? Lol
Sometimes, LOL, but not this time, if it becomes encapsulated, it will form a tiny little pocket around it that will isolate it from the rest of your body, it will just be a little lump. I've seen it happen with deer that have been shot with a 22 RF, years later my father found the bullet encapsulated inside his steak. LOL
The person with the 22 never came forward, the 8 year old buck (very large 4 point muley) was dropped on the run by a 350 Rem Mag at approx 80 yards. He tasted very good.
1) Change your Username to "Stretch Armstrong"
2) Next, just wait it out and keep an on the area (pin site) for the next week or so.
3) Tell Frankie to buy better plugs.
4) Buy some syringe filters
Stretch Armstrong? LMFAOROTF
rolling on the floor
Did I mention I'm from the older generation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_Armstrong
He would make someone a good avitar.
Oh I had a stretch Armstrong when I was a kid. LOL
Lol thanks man. Hopefully I caught the bastards before one snuck
Into my body.so far I feel alright. But only time can tell
HardLuck13Not sure what to tell you if it was injected other than pay close attention to the injection site and don't play with infections. If it does look infected go to the DR asap. The rest of the gear could be transferred to another sterile vial using a whatman filter.
Agreed thanks for your input!
Nothing to do about it now but filter the rest of the gear and/or pm frankie.