Mtren is different than tren in terms of results it produces. Mtren i consider a finishing compound ran for last 2-3 wks of precomp cycle. Like some other steroids it is pretty much a one trick pony. It's best use is as a hardener to top the physique off. Maybe it works as a strength booster, but I never experienced anything like that from it. It is not something you are going to get tren-like results from using. Risks far outweigh the benefits of this compound for 99% of the people who want to use it. The injectable mtren is far superior to the oral. I wouldn't even touch the oral. Even the injectable ran for just a couple of weeks will put you on the list for a liver transplant, which is why any casual gym rat looking to use it is just plain foolish.

As far as I see it; it cannot be considered as a tren. Its extremely resistant to being metabolised by the body, apparently, which is why it is so hepatoxic. The problem here, is that it has such a high binding affinity for the androgen receptor that very little is actually needed for it to work. Far less is actually needed by the body than is taken by users. With this in mind; every time someone follows a stereotypical bro-cycle, they are overdosing with the most liver destroying AAS in history. Even at tiny active doses it has extremely sever effects.
So that's one thing.

The second and perhaps more important thing is how it is metabolised... does it's active metabolites effect the brain the same way as tren? If yes, then only a fool would use this stuff, brain damage and amyloid plaques are not cool.
If no...... and the metabolites are their own thing and non-neuro-destructive, then careful monitoring and consideration could see its use on a short duration cycle. Long duration is a definite no-no.

I tried to find out about the metabolites, but couldn't. Didn't spend much time on it, busy. BUT, if you seriously want to use this crap, then you gotta find out about it's metabolites; i.e. will they cause you brain damage, cognitive decline, and amyloid plaque build-up? Have you gotten a dna check done to see if you are pre-disposed to Alzheiner's disease? (if yes, never risk this without knowing about it's metabolites). Do you have a history of logging your bloods to see how AAS effects your organs and how long to recover.

If you dont have this/get this info, then you would be foolish to use this compound blindly.

Guarantees: Severe liver damage, not just leaking enzymes, but bile issues and ducts blocked etc. Also guaranteed is severe CV effect; flipped lipids, increased LDL and perhaps the small LDL particles that lead to CV plaque buildup.
Worries: Gotta worry about potential for Brain Damage at the frontal cortex and possible amyloid plaque buildup which will quicken the onset of Alzheimer's in those who are destined to get it, may induce it for those with a predisposition, and will slow the bodily clearance in general pop leading to cognitive decline as the brain starves from lower glucose supplies.
Question: Why not just use a relatively safe strength promoter such as anadrol which is much less hepatoxic, safe (relatively speaking) at higher doses than most bro's know about and so on.

Risk>reward

I'd prefer an injectable version of Trenbolone instead cause I had already heavy sides like high liver amounts and horrible sweating at 750mcg daily (powo).

I have never run the oral version myself as the risks outweigh the rewards in my mind. Also a former gym rat buddy of mine hopped on the oral and it seemed like he developed gyno literally overnight.

Not worth the liver toxcitiy nor the man-boobies in my eye

Dose max orally is I believe 500 mpg/day. Cycle is short or risks become too great. If you look around there is an injectable version of it, but may be hard to find. On the injectable there is only one pass to the liver so dose can be higher. I wouldn't exceed 1000 mcg/day, but some do.

I’ve ran it. I’ve ran tren base injectable too. Everyone’s body reacts differently from tren, and every tren cycle is different. As I’ve gotten older I only run one tren cycle every so often, just can’t sleep and get hot flashes after meals. Tren flattens me out while on it. Oral tren never bothered me for the 3-4 weeks I ran it, but I don’t push the dose to high, I kept it @500mcg for strictly PwO. It also makes your sweat smell funky! If your dead set on it, post your stats on here, otherwise your going to get asked at some point.

I used it and still occasionally but rarely, not necessarily over several days, what I find interesting is that it is both androgenic and anabolic, so you benefit from a gain in aggression and more anabolism. I do not find it excessively toxic to the liver, but you have to be careful. For me, the one I used for now and I found the strongest is the injectable Tren without ester (Androxine) from Alpha Pharma, it made me cry (serious) me eyes. Personally I think Tren is not a good compound because of the side.

I've often wondered about it also, but from what I've heard it pretty much just behaves like normal Tren ace etc but with heavy liver strain and often stomach issues. But I have been told on a few occasions people have got quick overnight strength from it - I guess its like all compounds that you just have to go on personal experience and try it out for yourself ultimately. Any compound thats great for strength always seems to come with heavy sides unfortunately..

Personally I would never run it bro, heard bad things about it

I would stay away from it all together mate really not worth the risks. If you are going to do tren just pin it! Negatives 100% out weigh the positives. I have a friend who ran it and his organs took an absolute beating!! Still on medication to this day to keep everything functioning correctly.