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I am on trt and do subq injections ED. Just easier for me to use an insulin syringe and since I inject such little volume it works well for me. I’m only on 140mg/wk though.

Just curious if any of the people who use a lot of test 500mg+ use subcutaneous injections and how it works out for them.

23Sparta's picture

Oh ok, yeah, I’m not too confident injecting subq into fatty areas. I had a bad experience in the love handles before. Even when I do inject my abdomen, I go on the side, right under my rib cage

Rosschestzip's picture

I use the 5/16 or 8mm slin pin, you don’t really have to pinch and it can’t go to far or anything

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23Sparta's picture

Yeah that’s true, pinching isn’t necessary. Just a technique to separate the skin from the muscle and also desensitizes the area.

Rosschestzip's picture

Well and if your really lean it’s kinda necessary, especially if your using a long slin pin, to avoid basically going IM. I’m getting leaner lately and I’m some areas when I do my gh subq it’s almost like I’m about to hit the ab muscle. I almost want to try and pin it in the ab muscle to help it grow maybe lol

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press1's picture

Is the digestion and new protein powder still going okay mate?

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya but now I’m encountering trouble around 4pm ish and can’t eat again till about 10. Idk what it is I just feel STUFFED like I just left a buffet. The past like four days I’ve spent hours walking. I’m trying to speed up the digestion so I’m just walking and walking and walking all around my neighborhood. So I’m only getting in like 2500 cal cus I just cannot eat during those hours and now I’m doing cardio like all day. I’m gunna be peeled lol. I forgot to take my fiber for a couple days so maybe that was the issue, I started up again to day tho so we’ll see.

I have like three scoops of protein left and it’s not in the budget for me to get more for like another 10 days or so. I know I’m gunna be a fucking idiot and drink my old stuff cus I won’t want to go without protein powder after a few days and I’ll fuck my stomach all up. I just gotta be strong and resist the temptation!!! Lol

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press1's picture

Ahh Damn buddy, I don't know what more to suggest then. Could get out the Cowboy hat and turn into a male prostitute for a few days to raise protein powder cash?? Maybe you are just eating enough in general and your body doesn't need anymore food.

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya that’s works pretty good, they lay me a lot just to put my clothes back on!

But I think at this point I really need to see a specialist and stop fucking around

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press1's picture

In all honesty buddy - I do too Good

Rosschestzip's picture

Hustled up some loot and got another jug of Dymatize!!!

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23Sparta's picture

Bro, the fruity pebbles flavor next time

press1's picture

I keep seeing this flavour mentioned - BUT what the hell does Fruity Pebbles taste of??!! Pebbles that contain fruit - stone pebbles containing fruit??!! I can't get my head around that one LMAO

23Sparta's picture

You don’t have fruity pebbles cereal over there!?

Please tell me you’re joking

press1's picture

I don't buy cereals bud, I am a toast guy with grilled cheese and pickle on top OR an egg & pepper bro!!

23Sparta's picture

Press, I understand now, but it makes me sad that you missed out on fruity pebbles as a child. Please go buy a box and add some to a bowl with very cold milk

press1's picture

I must admit as a kid under 10 I did eat cereals LOL I was a fan of Ready Break which is essentially hot oats and milk topped with sugar, then I liked Rice crispies, then raisin in the middle LMAO Never was a fan of corn flakes though ....

Rosschestzip's picture

Fruity pebbles are just fruity Rice Krispies basically

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press1's picture

Go on then Ross, what's your Favourite cereal as I know you are a fan of them?!!

23Sparta's picture

Porridge!?

press1's picture

Hell Yeah!!!

23Sparta's picture

Might have to get me a box and see what ol’ Press1 is talking about

press1's picture

Get the plain version though not chocolate. Porridge is what you get fed in UK prisons LMAO

23Sparta's picture

Alright then plain, it’s on its way. A little taste of ENGLAND!!!!

23Sparta's picture

I got the one that comes in sachets. wtf says “sachets”

press1's picture

Pre measured bro so you just drop it in the bowl and add milk - its for people who take it to work and things so don't have to carry a box of cereal everywhere LOL

23Sparta's picture

Ohhhh a “packet” why didn’t they just say that?

press1's picture

Because they are called 'Sachets bro - and what they come in is the 'Packet' effectively Lol

23Sparta's picture

Absolutely ridiculous

23Sparta's picture

It has 11 essential vitamins and minerals

press1's picture

Yeah about 1% of the RDA of each LMAO

23Sparta's picture

That why you eat the whole box!

Rosschestzip's picture

Oh helllll no lol. Cookies and cream is delicious and I’m not changing and if I do it would be classic chocolate.
I remember the first protein I ever bought was carnivore mass and it was caramel popcorn flavored and it was fucking awful, I don’t try anything but the classic flavors ever since lmao

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23Sparta's picture

lol, ok then, but I’m telling you, it tasted just like fruity pebbles milk. It’s a well known fact

Rosschestzip's picture

I’m sure it tastes fine but idk how I’d feel about fruit flavored protein

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press1's picture

Whaaatt?!?!! Banana Whey is one of the best!! I use Tropical flavour Hydro all the time together with Blue Raspberry too LMAO

Chocolate is nice but not after a workout, I have never been able to drink chocolate shakes after training, feels wrong. Has to be refreshing lol

23Sparta's picture

I’m gonna send you a jug of it one day bro and change your life

Rosschestzip's picture

Idk man, I’m a nice guy so I’ll say “thanks!! These are great!” As I’m suffering to choke it down lmao

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23Sparta's picture

Ok ok ok, lol, point taken. No fruit flavored protein for the Ross then

23Sparta's picture

True, thats what I do, inject lean areas and pinch the skin. You could though 45 degree angle and not pinch

I don’t have that problem. I don’t even have to train my stomach and it grows. I think it’s one my genetically blessed body parts

23Sparta's picture

Oh ok, makes sense. I just dropped all the pluses from my TRT and switched to subq. I’m pip sensitive and the primo n prop were giving me trouble. Plus, my SHBG is crashed (4) so #1 priority is to recover that

23Sparta's picture

Until health makers become unmanageable….

23Sparta's picture

Naw, he can reach. I just tried again and I can almost reach. I just have these fucking
T-Rex arms

DeeMan's picture

I agree. Old school is the way to go for me too.

Drexyl's picture

My outlook, and hopefully the guys that are doing the subq can clarify for me, because I have done something similar in the past, are we talking say a 1/2” slin pin straight in, or are we talking pulling loose skin and injecting just under that like GH? I just can’t see putting a half milliliter or so of oil just under the skin. I’m very curious about the absorption. Are we talking 1-3IU of oil if doing it like a GH injection?

Drask88's picture

I go straight in at 90 degrees with a 3/8 inch 31g needle no skin pull. .08ml of 250cyp. Delts and quads. I used to do ventroglutes too, but it’s so little oil that I recover from the pip in like a day and delta and quads are just easier for me.

My bloods are about 900ng/dl total at 140mg per week on pharma. Just switched to ugl and I’m planning to do some labs in 6 weeks or so. I’m curious to see how they compare.

DeeMan's picture

Yeah I'm definitely a little lost like you are when it comes to sub q, especially injecting sub q for a whole cycle. Lol I'll stick to what I know

SeeOhShow's picture

Long ester ED is a thing though. I do ED on cycle with long esters for volume reduction. I’d rather pin 0.8ml ED than ~3ml 2x a week or ~2ml 3x a week. I’ve found I get zero pip even running compounds like DHB if the volume per shot stays at 1ml or less.