+ 1 Need TRT Labs, but currently on Blast
So I'm normally on TRT (100mg-200mg T. Cyp weekly), but for the past few weeks I've been doing a blast of 500mg T. Cyp with 300mg Mast weekly. I have an appt with my TRT prescribing doc and I normally get labs done prior to appt. I know my Testosterone levels are going to be significantly elevated if I go now but my question is how long do you think it will take to bring my levels back down to "therapeutic range" once I go back to TRT dose? I guess I can just get labs done at a private lab first to see where my levels are at as I have done that in the past when I'm on blast to see where my estrogen levels are at and whether I need an AI or to check my H/H. Just wondering if anyone knows or has experience with how long it takes test levels to come down. I realize this can vary from person to person, but any input would be appreciated.
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You responded in my thread as well. I'm on the same dose and reach about the same levels.
I'm so sick of the 200mg isn't trt crap. I've been on 200mg for 4 years, only hit 1000 once, and it was probably closer to day 3 post pin.
I mean which is it, 4 or 6 years? Not trying to be a dick but on your post you say 6 years 200mg Test. It just isn't common for a guy to pin 200mg a week and be sub 1k test levels. You and him must metabolize Test extremely fast or something shady is going on. To give you an idea my last blood test I was on 165mg a week and that put me at 1373 4 days post injection. That's cycle Test levels. I also see guys get put on 200mg a week as "TRT" and they 1500+ a week and they've been running it for years on a perpetual cycle. I see it too damn often because their so called "doctor" told them they need 200mg a week. A lot of these TRT clinics are cash grabs and prescribe men higher doses so they have to purchase more sooner. When in reality they need 100mg a week to be in the normal range.
6 years on trt, 4 years on 200mg.
The fact that this dose raises so many eyebrows around here makes me do the same, but I wouldn't even know what to look for as to what the issue is, and obviously neither does my doctor. My doctor isn't a trt clinic, it's right out of the medical center attached to the hospital and in the same network as my pcp.
I'm gonna go back to 6 month testing instead of 1 year to get a better picture. And I usually go day 5-7 for bloods.
RustyhookerNow youre seeing what i pointed out....makes good questions....
Hey, outliers are possible. It's just the vast majority 200mg a week is a cycle. Maybe get a second opinion on your bloodwork from a different doctor? Or you could do the bloodwork yourself. I know paying for your own labs isn't appealing but for me and my peace of mind I do it myself. I also abuse AAS so I wouldn't want my doctor to flag me and I lose my insurance lol.
I don't mind paying the money for labs. I'm probably going to do that when I start my cycle. How far into cycle should the first bloods be? And is it common to do more than 1 per cycle? Or as needed?
Rustyhookerheres when to test with links and info. Things us vets do here at eroidd
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/when-to-test-bloods
Generally 4 weeks into a cycle or as needed if you start to feel off/sides. That way you can adjust as needed or if you need an AI, etcetera. You can get the labs back in about a day or 2 these days.
I remember your blood test too. Thing is what these guys don't realize is exactly what you are saying and that is, under normal conditions a person who pins 200mg injects of test c /week will NOT be under 1000ng especially 1-2 days post injection.
Now we shouldn't generalize because we all are different but like you said this for most folks isn't right. I think that's the point. So to me these two guys are obviously metabolizing test a little differently than most folks.
Yeah I'm not trying to be a dick about it. Just they're missing my point. Maybe they are the outliers, just maybe. Same goes for the guys that can pin 75mg a week and puts them at the high reference range. Everyone is different. I personally would look at it I'm taking 200mg a week and it puts me sub 1k, I'd be a little concerned and do my own blood work and research. Buy a vial from a reputable source and try it out to see if what I was getting was bunk underdosed gear. But that's just me, thinking outside of the box.
This is where my head is at. I feel like nothing is a coincidence and I should look into it more.
I think my 1k test may have been a diff brand. I was on vacation for 2 months and had to switch my script to a different state, and I swear the test was much better. I have to see if the dates line up, but I wonder if I can ask my pharmacy for a diff brand
Yeah obviously you're being a dick! Lmao no I get your point. I can't diagnose these guys and all we can do is take their word. But it did seem odd.
Yeah pretty low. Surprised me
On 200mg? Wow. First time I've seen that from someone
I'm on the same dose. Scripted from good urologist in a major medical center.
I have a handful of patients that need 150 twice a week to maintain a trough of low 700s. One guy, 200mg twice a week --
But you’re right, the average is 100-150mg once weekly.
Really? Interesting.
How ya been brother? I know you had leg or foot issues I believe right? As for me I'm good, besides Rusty Hooker trying to pick a fight with me. I had to spank him though lol.
Lmao. Still recovering brother. Patellar tendon repair been 10 weeks now since surgery. When I first came out of the brace I had lost 6” off the quad. Gained 2 back so far and that’s really just from walking and blood flow restriction training. Starting to progress a little more with rehab this week. Can’t do any significant active resistance for another 2 weeks. It’s gonna be 9mos total before I’m 100% from what I’ve read. Okay to return to active “sport” after 7mos but it’s variable per rehab protocol.
Taking time off the gear and just TRT since early feb. Not planning to push a growth phase until I feel 100%, my strength/size is back, and PT clears me. Really overdue for labs at this point I need to get them done soon!
Damn buddy a patellar tendon - Was it torn or injured during training??
The tendon that connects the kneecap to the shinbone, Ouch!!
Nope. I was moving. It was brutal. Toe caught the edge of a carpeted stair while carrying a bin and I went down. Landed right on the knee. Severed the tendon completely. Knee cap shot up into my thigh.
Saw surgeon 4 days later and surgery a week after that thankfully!
Couple years ago my bicep tendon tore. Doctor, MRI, surgery within couple weeks. Took some time to heal, year later it was still throbbing after workouts even though the strength was back. But ok now 2years later. They drilled hole in bone and anchored tendon through it with a button on other end.
Damn. Sounds painful
Damn that really sucks. Traumatic knee and elbow injuries are probably the worst and most painful ones I see. Not very often, but you remember them. Seen some dislocations that made me wince even lol.
Good luck with that long recovery bro and stay with it. +1
Yeah I bet you've seen a few of these bud. It must look horrific the kneecap going up like that, is it a similar pain to when someone kicks you hard in the shin?
HOLY F****N SHIT!!!! I CANNOT EVEN BARE TO IMAGINE THE PAIN THAT MUST HAVE CAUSED!
OMG
Stubbing a toe is painful enough but damn, I bet the first thing that came into your head above all else was my training is screwed. So you must have been on some serious pain medications for those 4 days until surgery then?
I understand. Hope you get healed asap.
Thanks brother
There is no "range" once dialed in, it's going to be this, or that, but not 100 to 200 per week, nor does your previous baseline matter.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that after a year of doctor visits, testing, and "tweaking" .25ml every 4 days keeps my levels between 500 and 800. A mid-normal range that fluctuates like normal test levels do depending on when the test was made. It has never gone over or under normal range.
So yeah, your opening comment, "...I'm normally on TRT (100mg-200mg T. Cyp weekly)", is suspect. Your prescription does not read, "Take 100mg IM per week unless you feel like doubling your dose, then take 200mg. Or fuck it, take whatever you want not to exceed 200mg and we'll see how your body reacts to the estrogen swings"
Also, none of my doctors spoke in mg. Cyp is understood as 200mg/ml. I'm administering in ml. We referenced ml as being the base unit, not mg. ...Just like all my pills, "take one or two every..."
Greg can I ask you this. Since you do TRT at 25mg (I'm assuming you meant 25mg even though you put .25mg). Do you do blasts where you add in another compound or raise your Test dose? If so, what has your experience been with how long it takes for your levels to come back down to your normal level while on the TRT dose.
He put 0.25ml* not mg. So 50mg twice a week
Yep that was my mistake. I can admit when I’m wrong
Yes This
It's as deeman stated below. That said, I never had to worry about it. If I were to blast, I'd come off well before needing to go in for a checkup or bloodwork.
Thats all I was looking for.
I'm not sure why everyone is so fixated on the fact that I said 100mg-200mg. I should have just said 200mg because that's what I'm currently on and have been for 2 years straight (minus the blasts). Prior to that I was on 100mg/wk and my Dr. bumped me up because my levels were still in the lower range of therapeutic and still had low libido. So my "dialed-in" dose is 200mg/week and is what my current Rx reads. Not sure if that is suspect.
Once again I will just keep to myself because this way I won't have to explain every little thing I say.
Because it wasn't true. If you mis-spoke, just say you mis-spoke.
This is the internet and people tend to pick up on the tells. You've been prescribed 200mg for TWO YEARS STRAIGHT... so why reference 100mg at all? It wasn't a recent change; it isn't even a frequent change.
Sure ....I mispoke, but you act like I'm trying to hide or deceive. What in the world would I have to gain by doing that.
You said you take .25mg every 4 days. Did you misspeak. I'm sure you meant 25mg every 4 days.
Reread my post... you mis-read. My interjection was because you and Rusty are needlessly going round and round when, if true, all you needed was to clarify your comment rather than trying to back pedal and come up with rationalizations. Even our exchange has me questioning your answers and I outlined why that is.
But I can't prove anything one way or the other. I have no dog in this fight. I'll take you at your word.
Rustyhooker100-200 is self prescribed. Your high horse runnth away lillith. Point is youre playing with fire and not understanding it will bite.
No...i read 1 sentence. No time for a dictionary.
I said 100-200mg/wk because my Dr. will change based on labs. Currently he has me on 200mg/wk. Do you need to see my Rx?
And yes I did try Tren for a total 9 days but it started making my hair fall out really bad. I think we already had this talk didn't we. I switched to Mast instead and has been agreeing with me .
I'm not a noobie bro. Been doing this for a long time. I guess you ask one question on here and all of a sudden I don't "understand it" and I'm "gonna hurt myself".......gimme a break Mr Oz.
Rustyhooker@press1 @Greg @Makwa @simonmagus84 @Catalyst
Maybe ^^^^ they can help better with your self prescribing
And currently on tren....
https://www.eroids.com/pics/new-order-for-my-first-tren-cycle-from-titan....
I've never had a problem with any of their comments. They're respectful . Take a lesson.
RustyhookerSimple...dont lie
Lie about what WTH do I have to gain by lying . This is ridiculous . I’m officially done
Sent ya a FR. If one those guys are busy, I'll help ya out. You got a DR, script, and labs. I'm a little tied up at work, but I can reach out bro at some point if you want.
RustyhookerIt happens. It doesnt help when all of eroids troll pop in to screw up the work. Lol!