+ 13 When to test bloods?
The joy of Eroids is members helping members. This place was created as a spot where SOURCES are held accountable. Meaning that reviews, si chat, forums is where we can learn who has the best, safest gear/hgh.
Anyone here long enough knows there will be fakers on both sides and sometimes they work together in order to convince members that 'all is fire here'. So how do we know for OURSELVES ?
1- We learn how to read forums, watch si pages, and try to see which members are reliable.
2- BLOODS BLOODS BLOODS!! You cant beat science. Point blank. Your body will react in a very specific way that is uniquely you. Getting the BEST growth is knowing your gym, foods and bloods. Estro, prolactin, rbc, liver, kidneys..etc etc etc
BUT WHEN DO WE TEST?????
On enth/cyp the vets have been boasting mid/end 4th week. Not bro-science but scientific fact. Quick reference is seen by folks that needed Dr prescribed TRT. Come back in 4 weeks to check/adjust. Dr really gives no reason nor explains why....
BUT WHY? YOU SAID SCIENCE!!
True true.....so lets look at prior vets posts, backed by science.
If you click on picture or can expand it on your phone you can see day 28 (week 4) is nearly to max level concentration. Day 35 is roughly AT max level peaks.
So mid week 4 has you roughly at max peak. Yes, it rises slightly at day 35(week 5) but were not just interested in max peaks per se. An uncapped test will show us the totals...WHICH WE WANT. BUT were also looking at e2 and in a bigger picture, maximizing our growth.
Short Esters-----this has been hotly debated because theres old lists based on halflife describing prop as 4.5 days. Its flat wrong! Based on parent hormone and esters attached. Prop is falling off the cliff at 48 hours. Calling on ed or eod pins to maintain those peaks and avoid the valleys. Testing a short ester cycle has always held a mid second week standard even though props dead in 48hrs. WHY? Because again were not just interested in test peak but with a faster peak, theres a faster rise in e2 as well. Its been common among all members somewhere mid 2nd or beginning 3rd to assess that e2.
Guru Tread explains prop---i will find his forum soon...
Note based on science---- low/crashed e2 halts gains. Too much e2 and we get the sides we watch for like sadness, lethargy, water retention above normal, etc etc. NOW the bad news. Low e2 causes sadness, lethargy, and other symptoms of e2 thats high. The 2 differences ive noticed is low e2 my joints are sore and high e2 my forehead feels like crisco. More bad news....some compounds can do the same.
E2 between 25-52 is a good typical level. Some can go higher as they understand their body as mapped by blood tests and experience. But were looking at averages here
Use SCIENCE to figure it all out!! Get tested!
this is the important part as a member run website.
How do we decipher out the good, bad, and ugly? Well if source A looks great and 2 members post bloods as proof, we get excited! But what if those 2 werent honest? EASY! This is why this entire post is created. More tests posted!. Every lab on earth has had good/bad lots. Or variances in doses to be correct. More testing lets BOTH members and sources see those errors. More tests erases those cheats and outliars. If 15 test with cyp/enth from various members show a good range and a troll pops up with 1200 on 500mg....WE KNOW whos full of it. And better than that.... IT FORCES LABS to be consistant. So YOU get what you paid for!!
In the big picture its up to us to keep eachother updated. Hope you enjoyed or learned a lil bit. This site is full of learning, sharing and knowledge.
More info and links to be posted...DONT thumbs up me...look at the links and appreciate the vets here. Be safe!
Tren falsifies estro readings. Everyone should read ALL megaT883 forums on blood