+ 18 H20 based Testosterone Suspension
As some of you may know, I'm a water based Testosterone Suspension Junkie. I love everything about it. I love the way it makes me feel. I love to use it as a pre-workout, I love that it is the strongest Testosterone available. I love that I feel it immediately upon injection.
That being said, I found an interesting article on Test Suspension. Tests were run on 20 thoroughbred racehorses with water based suspension and it was determined that the median terminal half life for water based suspension was 39 hours. What ED? That's bullshit. There isn't an ester attached to suspension. No my friend there is not. However, the solids in the suspension take time to dissolve.
What I found incredibly interesting about the test is the fact that one week later testosterone levels peaked again.
Whatchoo talkin' bout Ed?
That's right kids Test levels came back up to another kick ass peak similiar to the initial peak. This secondary peak was attributed to the dissolution of testosterone from the solid material in the suspension.
What they found with the suspension was that it actually took around a month for the shit to work its way completely out of the system of the horses.
So what's the point Ed?
My point is this.
First, If you are running water based suspension alone, you could probably run it ED and keep test levels stable if in fact the half life is mimicked in humans as it is in horses.
Second, If you are running water based suspension in your cycle, it may be a good idea to plan ahead. Don't be thinking that you can take water based suspension and one week later pass an athletic drug test .
Finally, I think a secondary peak of testosterone is kick ass. However, I think stability is important. You probably shouldn't bank on stability if you are running water based suspension.
Just my two cents. I could be wrong. I welcome any input.
Also, I don't think that TNE would give the same result. The Testosterone is dissolved and In my opinion would exit the system much quicker. Which may also give a testosterone crash that you don't get with water based suspension.
This is the study if you are looking for an interesting read:
http://www.rmtcnet.com/resources/An_interlaboratory_study_of_the_pharmac...
I welcome any input or thoughts on the subject. I by no means know what the hell I'm talking about. So other input would kick ass.
All my love, no homo
Ed.
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Awesome ED!
Thanks brother ++
Great info
AnonThis whole thread has good info man
I didn't even think tne would act different, but it makes sense.
And bj talking about the doc saying the larger shards that plug the pin up are a byproduct is interesting, especially because you mentioned skipping them in the vial and still having good results. It makes sense though, skip 5 large crystals well you still have all the small ones in you, how important are the handful of big problematic ones....not very. The amount of hormone you're getting is still high!
Hmmmm now I want to try suspension also.. lol I didn't before because of all the bs stories about big crystals and 22g pins
If you find a good source that micronizes the particles it's not a problem. Every once in a while the pin plugs but just pull the plunger back and go again. It usually solves the problem. I've only had to do this twice maximum on a pin just be careful not to go too fast when you restart or it can and has just go straight through and then you're in for some pip. If you check my reviews you'll find a solid source for suspension
It has always been one of my favorite compounds.
I run it as a base 100mg a day & it works better than oil for me! I know..I know.. People are gonna say BS, but the peak is actually longer than most people think. I feel better on it than Cyp soo go figure! I guess everyone is different! I've done 100mg shots a day... 50 mg shots twice a day & even pinned 25mg shots 4 x a day with insulin pins in the past. It really wasnt that big a difference! The biggest difference was practicality. In an ideal world a morning shot to mimic natural pulse & before training at night probably gives most stable levels. Again flatline stable levels are over rated in my 30 year experiance. Off juice you can drink a Coka Cola & your test levels will go down & spike back up after a few hours. In reality our natural test levels go up & down all the time... Soo minny spikes actually mimic natural levels. In my opinion super stable flatline levels shut me down faster.. Just my experiance!
Rustyhooker4 x a day with insulin pins
Ummmm.....not suspension. Maybe tne which acts very different
Agreed. No way test suspension in water was pulled or pushed through a slin pin.
RustyhookerTne thru slin is really nice considering the number of pins in a cycle. But aq solutions give me flasbacks of ed pins with a 22ga. Maybe someday i will try winny in oil. See if it still has the funky pip
I hear ya Rusty. I love TNE but typically steer clear of water based solutions because I don't like using the huge pins. Never tried water based Winny though.
RustyhookerOne thing too with aq based is theres no real anti bacterial in there. It can get contaminated easily. At least in oil you got the cooking, ba and bb in there. Plus the granuals are melted. Big problem is winny has a super high melt point. Which is one reason for the pip. It stays as a micro shard in that pin area til body breaks it down.
I’ll never use water based injects because of the horror stories from you guys. No pins over bigger than 25 go in this body lol.
You can pin with a 25 ga if the test suspension is good. If it plugs pull back the plunger and try again. I've only had to give up once. Never ran a cycle of it tho and I wouldn't.
RustyhookerSome day i will try their full gear lineup. Too many reports of customs catches in my area. :(
23 is what I use now for it, not really any issues since. I do run the bottle under some warm water to help draw and push. I only run it the week of my competition and it cripples me. Dont know how people can actually run a full cycle with it...
If it crippled me I wouldn't run it. Been there fuck that. The source I've been using has the recipe dialed in. Sure there is some pip which I can handle but crippling pip I'm out.
I like the 23 guage too! A doc told me the large shards that are big in the bottle or amp are a byproduct & don't need to be sucked up into the syringe! Do you inject 50mg a day or 100mg & do you do just one shot daily?
I'd run it for the week of my comp only, .5 ed starting Monday-wed and then 1ml ed thur-sun.
Strongman or PL?
Powerlifting... would love to try strongman but that's alot of cardio, lol
Lol yea it is. Definitely the only downside
jayiskhe posted "Advanced powerlifting cycle" in the Advanced cycles and taboo subjects group.
Ah. I should pop my head in there more often. I’m in the group. But I really don’t run advanced cycles so I feel like I have no business in there lol.
jayiskstill has good stuff in there worth reading through. Not happy with the new Broscience video today... ;{
I gotta watch it. The older ones are definitely better tho
jayiskdumb ass Brad is in this one. the old one that they played Doms version of Monopoly was funny as fawk but other than that cant stand the dude.
Yea I’m not a bradly martin fan. Also this one is just an ad for his new game. He’s still funny but yea this one is blatantly just a 30 min ad
Haha Is Bradley Martin still going? I remember when I use to watch all his vids a few years back before he opened his own gym (all off the back of social media income!) - Now he seems to be permanently on his knees for Larry wheels lmao
One question though - How on earth does he do that deadlift challenge where they eat Burrito's in between the lifts, he must have a stomach of steel or something Lol
Yea I only know him from dom’s channel. I tried watching his stuff but he’s too much of a noodle for me. He’s definitely impressive looking and pretty damn strong considering he’s a BBer, but that doesn’t make him NOT a noodle lmao.
Lol yea I’m all set on a cycle of it. No thanks. I may try it one day if it can go thru a 25, but ill probably stick to my TNE thru a slin pin. I don’t use it often but it gets the job done when I do.
Yeah, TNE through a slin pin is the way I prefer to go. Definitely gets the job done when I am trying to go really heavy.
RustyhookerThat winny i used to love it! But ya after your 4ish weeks are done...amen! Thats where orals are the shizz imo. Crush it and sublingual or grapefruit juice.
jayiskwith test suspension out of a 10 ml bottle i have to use an 18 g if not it gets clogged.
RustyhookerAgree.
I have a issue getting it thru the 23g without it clogging. I have to do all kind of aerobics to get the pin right without clogging, lol
RustyhookerI hear ya! Plunger work and wiggle
Test suspension through a slim pin LMAO. I've heard it all now
Yes Aqueous Test rules!!! I'm aware of most of what you said, and I actually posted an article in the forum here on it a while back. Tough to inject but worth the trouble cuz the results will be there! + 1
Good to know!! Thanks for sharing broski!
Nice bump JH. I love me some suspension
Best form of steroid known to man!!!!
I love test suspension oil or water form. If I could handle pinning 2× + aday this would be my cycle every time
There is only one brand I will use as long as they make it. Oil and aqua. Both top notch. But I can only handle it everyonce in a while. Estro flares suck ass
Try out the chinese version if you haven't already - Pure firewater....
Very interesting to read! Glad you posted it!!!
Great read +1
RustyhookerGlad you found this! Get huge bro!
Always brother
Hey ED .. Just read the whole dang thing with replies
I know Muta called you a pussyboi
...I can confirm ...you are Aok
Interesting. Good read brother
Glad you read. I'm very hesitant to pin h20 suspension the last month of a cycle just because if it indeed comes back at a rebound, you might be wasting pct.
I don't think that one would have this problem with TNE, but I like The Initial hit of h20 better than oil tne. And it doesn't stink.