+ 11 Worst Cycles of eroids - How NOT TO DO IT
Am I imagining it, or is it post a ridiculous cycle month? I'm being deadly serious here, some of the stuff posted over the last few days is mind numbing. Here we are on a forum FULL to the brim with a variety of posts detailing beginner cycles, intermediate cycles, all nicely arranged in groups and stickies yet still people post up stuff that shows little or no research or understanding of the compounds involved.
So, as it's apparently tricky to track down all the sensible cycles, I've decided after discussion with a few of our regular members and mods to make it easy to find HOW NOT TO DO IT.
This is how it will work. You can post up the cycles and their links, (I want to see la crème de la crème here), and we can discuss / dismantle in a (largely) constructive way. Exceptions can be made for extreme stupidity, ADV/EXP tags posting stupid stuff, these are all acceptable candidates for ridicule and humiliation without recourse. The front runners will be moved into this posts text as examples to show others WHAT and WHY they shouldn't run this.
So, you give:
Cycle.
Link.
OP Stats.
What's wrong in your opinion.
In return, you get, well, very little to be honest. Hopefully at least a small amount of entertainment and more importantly contribute to others learning what's appropriate, what isn't and why.
Keep it constructive. Let's try and avoid anyone being over sensitive and taking things too personally. Sometimes we learn better from the negatives.
Winner - week commencing 2nd March. Spotted by Rolltide.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/cycle-and-pct-help
The one to beat. In my eyes the worst / most inappropriate I think I've ever seen in my time here:
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/eqtest-etest-proptren-anpptbolsuperdrol
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I was just reading that one. I wish I hadn't, I'm lost for words.
In this case I'm hoping he's a troll. 19 he could still be in high school ugh. Wish some of these guys I could knock some sense in
This one amuses me. There's some subtleties in here that I particularly like.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/what-else-to-add...
It is getting very frustrating seeing these cycles. I have to try harder to just stay in the diet and training section, and keep from poking my head into this cycle stuff.
Very true. I stay away from cycle logs and advice. I'll speak diet and training all day with anyone. Hell, diet can be just as interesting and complex to understand as any course of drugs and yield awesome results for those who know what they're doing...cycle speak, I'll just with those I know at this point.
I think if most of these people with these crazy cycles actually bothered to read and practice all of the good info in the diet and training section, they wouldn't think they need these outrageous cycles because they would be getting results due to proper execution of training and diet. Unfortunately most people just brush off diet and training and think they can get "swole" by just taking a lot of drugs. I always tell people that food is one of the most anabolic substances there is but everyone just laughs at me when I say that.
Every week I seem to have this conversation with youngsters in the gym. They don't eat properly and can't work out why they weigh 150lbs. I'm sure they think I'm joking when I tell them what I eat. It's only those around me all day that realise. The guys I work with are still shocked when they see me get through best part of a kilo of meat / fish during the working day. It's not hard, even my 8 year old gets it. When her friends make comments about my size she says "that's because my dad eats three times as much as most men, that's why he's big".
You know why they don't want to hear it? Pinning gear is easier than forcing 8 meals down you.....
And so many of these 150 pounders with their proclaimed 3000-3500 calories a day. If I had a dollar everytime I heard that...when people starting weighing food and measuring portions and realize how short they fall on what they actually claim to take in
But cat, food is expensive bruv! We can't afford food AND cycles... That's crazy talk.
AnonI'm thankful there hasn't been a steroid yet that fucked with my appetite. If anything they all have made me more hungry. I actually have to make sure I don't eat too much because I love eating so much lol. I gain muscle fairly easily but I can also gain fat almost as easily. Honestly I get more satisfaction out of eating a big ass steak then I ever do jamming a needle full of gear into my body
But for some I do understand the desire for a quick fix, especially the younger guys. Learning how to slow down and plan for the long haul just comes with age, maturity and experience. Who I was 10 years ago is nowhere near who I am today. Turns out I'm not invincible after all...
I'm similar to you, I've always liked my food. Even as a teenager I'd eat at home then go to my grandmothers house round the corner for more home cooked quality Italian food just to get two lunches!
Only thing that really has any effect on my appetite is Anavar.
AnonHa! I have an Italian grandma, can't beat a real home cooked Italian meal. Now I'm fuckin hungry lol thanks, gotta go grab a snack.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI'm always hungry. I eat, an hour later I'm hungry. No sodding carbs for me now either, 7pm here so I'm being "good". Some wild salmon and some spinach coming up shortly.
Exactly! That's why I'm glad Viking is back. Very rarely spoke about gear, but his nutritional and training posts can blow your mind.
And that's the way it should be! The gear is supplemental to everything else. How the hell can someone take advantage of nitrogen retention increase from gear, when they barely grasp the concept of performance nutrition as it is. Or from a training aspect when someone barely does enough to stimulate growth yet they need something that will decrease recovery time...why? Gear is the last road to cross
I'm getting to the same point. The shame is that guys like you Wny don't get involved in the cycles understandably because of all the nonsense. It's folks like you whose knowledge could benefit others. I've said it before, it's a pretty thankless task.
I'll dip into cycle advice every now and again in the comp prep group because the goals are similar and for the most part it's a bunch of seasoned vets exchanging ideas. I used to help through pm but even then people would circle back with "well what's your favorite cycle for bulking / cutting etc?" Here I am trying to tailor fit things to people's specific goals and then I spend all the time doing it and in the end most just try to phish for what I'm running or like to run... As if I was withholding some magical secret. I can tell who's going to be receptive to advice just by how they carry themselves through convo & I will bend over backwards to help someone like that. But those people are starting to be very few and far between. It is a thankless task but if you get one who actually listens and follows up during the course of the whole deal, it's worth while.
I'm finding myself repeatedly wanting to pick people up and shake them recently.....
AnonOnly works with babies bro ;-P
75kg 19 year olds are definitely shakeable.
AnonLol might still qualify as a baby
The one I'm thinking of certainly has a similar level of maturity.
Not when your as big as catalyst lol
AnonLol probably can shake one in each hand
I love this post, I thought I was the only knucklehead out there. My first cycle was test cyp @400 mg a week, 10 weeks, and no real PCT, I took those ole faithful T-Bombs the day I stopped injections.everyone was popping, anyone member those? lol. I didn't have anyone to inject me, so I watched a YouTube video, waited for my girl friend to fall asleep, snuck off to the bathroom, and I was so nervous, I injected real slow, and I hadn't realized I was holding my breathe, After I pinned I was like that was f'ing easy, then passed the f out, and I passed out into the sink faucet, woke up to my girl friend crying and slapping me to wake up. So much for freaking privacy lol
lol.... i love it bro, great story well told hahahah
Well I can't follow your layout with finding a log and all but I can tell you my story. Well I really started working out 3 years ago at 130lbs. I was 22. Back when I was 18 my freshman year of college one of my roommates was built. Probably 5'6 190 lean just freak genetics he didkr know wtf he was doing he just had the generics. Well he tells me and my other Roomate that he ran a deca cycle when he was 17 and he blew up on it. So obviously me and my other roommate are like ok sign us up. So we meet up with his mid 30s meadhead friend who hooks me and my friend up with 1 vial of test cyp for 150 bucks. The plan was for me and my friend to split it and run 250mg ew for 5 weeks lol. Well we try to go get needles and we can't get the Ight size. Mind you I never worked out before in my life. I took my first shot and basically hit the gym for the first time that day. Placebo had me all gassed up like the test was in full swing 15 mins after the pin. Now back to the needles. All we could get was some insulin pins lol. So we used slin pins for glute injections. Finally we get some 18g harpoons for next week. Not only do we draw and shoot with the same massive 18g needle, if I remember correctly we were reusing the needles. Thank The Lord I never got an infection I really don't know how I didn't.
So a week goes by and were like WTF vinny why aren't we huge yet? He's like idk man I remember on my deca cycle I blew up the fist week. So obviously deca was the missing piece that's why we weren't huge after 7 days on test cyp. Mind you were in there doijg bicep curls, little bit of chest, don't even think we knew back had muscles in them lol. So we go back to the guy and pay 180 for a vial of deca to once again split for 5 weeks. So now here we are, don't know anything about eating, don't even know what protein is, don't know how to lift and were running to long esters for 5 weeks lol.
So all in all my biceps grew a bit and that was pretty much it. Most likely just water that added a little bit of size. I don't know how I didkr get an infection and I don't know how I shot with a dull 18g every week. These days I won't go smaller then a 25.
So here's the stats
Me
18 y/I
6ft
135ish
Never worked out before
Cycle
Weeeks 1-5 cyp 250mg ew
Weeks 3-8 deca 200mg ew
Pct: ya right like we knew anything about that.
So obviously after the cycle I stoppd workout out and didkr touch a weight again for 4 years until I was about 22. I was not the smartest 18 year old lol. But if you count this technically I have about 8 years of cycle experience haahh.
And this story is exsclty why young guys should not be using gear. I didkr do a shred of reseach at all. Nothing. Just loaded up the needle injected did bicep curls and them partied hard 4 days a week. This is about as bad as it gets.
AnonDamn man, you've come a long way. Thanks for sharing this, Ill have to post mine up when I get the chance. Its not as bad as yours no offense lol.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI almost feel left out. My first cycle was fairly sensible. 250mg of test e per week, although if I remember correctly it was a bit short around 8wks. Was about 14 years ago mind you.
AnonI thought mine was sensible lol. 500mg test e/week, no ai (didn't even know what that was) and 20mg of nolva for about a week that I started the day after my last shot....yep....Stopped taking it because I felt fine lol, had no clue about esters and clearance times etc.
ai ?????.......... Whaddat mean? Artificial Insemination? lmao!
AnonLol exactly!
When i look back my cherry popper was fairly sensible..... 500mg test heptylate with pronabol caps as the kicker.
Things got reeaaaally stupid after that when i got my paws on some parabolan (original finajet), .... stretch marks came in abundance from then on hahahah..... the 80s were a learning minefield for me, success then failure became the norm until i found the specific set of compounds that really worked for me... happy days .
Times have changed though and from when i actually pluck up the courage to pin again when i feel my immune is back strong its just basic TRT test loads for the rest of my life..... no more stacks ever again, them days are behind now.
Good to see you back on the boards man...I don't know what happened but if it was something from that Winter Blast cycle, by all means take the karma back man. That's bad karma brother. Hope everything is on the up and up for you and you're feeling better. Good to have you back around.
Nah not the cycle bro dont worry about that........ i got to see what intensive care departments look like from the "laid in bed view"........ had a bad ride bro but im back on the up now thanks to some food input and the Suze looking after me like a was a new born lol
Good to speak to you bro........... you still a monster??? (stupid fkn question lmao!)
Glad to hear you're back on the up brother. It's always good to have that support system that's ready to baby you if you need it, tell Suze good work!
Will do .. thanks brother
Looks like I'll be joining the TRT club shortly. Will get comps done this year, try a real aggressive pct and weigh up where I am.
Thanks Iron. Good to see you've grasped some more knowledge since then! We learn faster from our mistakes. I liked the "end of week one, why aren't we huge yet" line, cracked me up.
Lol I remember after the first shot rigjt away thinking I'm feeling it all jacked up doing push-ups and shit in my room hahah. What a fucking disaster that was. I can't for the life of me remember the brand but It came in a nice box and everything. To use an 18g to pin is bad enough , to use it 5 times in a row is a notherr animal. I can't remember but it must have been so painful.
StevebI keep hearing people saying they take Anavar because it doesn't shut you down and you do not need PCT. I know that's not true by the way, amd they aren't even sure if it's real Anavar.
Well here's my entrant. I think it's a strong contender. Very first cycle, tren. I can't even bring myself to explain it in any more detail. Read it if you can face it:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/test-e-tren-a
I came from an era of book learning (No internet?). The Underground Steroid Bible, Bill Phillips' Anabolic Reference Guide and the like. Back in those days is was a good idea to run Deca only at 400 per week for 8 weeks as a starter cycle. I still have the books! Luckily I never pushed my luck and my cycles were always short.
Nothing beats the amount of experience the guys here on Eroids have. Years and years of experience at the push of a button! Smarter safer cycles is what it is all about.
Ok, a very ignorant cycle that I posted when I first got here. The very good people in this community came to my rescue. Catalyst, you were one of the main ones. I deleted it out of embarassment, but it involved 18 weeks of dbol!! Talk about a bad idea!! You can read the comments still...
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/..-0
I'm glad you posted that. Being able to critique yourself is an important part. Most of us have done done really stupid stuff with AAS if we are honest. We learn from it and move forwards with more knowledge as a result.
It was very humbling. Especially when I started studying. Thankfully nobody flamed me. Everything was constructive and supportive.
Anon27 weeks of dbol
Well thats why we're here, to learn shit the right way.
My personal favourite cycle that NEVER fails and NEVER gets me in trouble with the MODS......
2 thick hand sliced pieces of bread.
1 thick slice of prime rump steak.
Half onion thinly sliced.
1 big beef tomato sliced.
lashings of chipotle sauce.
Now i realise this is a 5 compound stack which may give you youngsters a serious biological kicking if eaten between meals, and may lead to serious weight gain without having to reach constantly for the bottles of "magic pills"............ i know i can hear you now saying "fuck off you old cunt, its easier to pin another gram than to eat another 3000 calories LMFAO!!".... and that my friends is why i have returned to you hardcore methods instead of "pussy pinning"
Strap in motherfuckers! vike is back to get eroiders growing again............... BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!
I felt that....
Welcome back there not near enough British slang(even though I still think your related to Dennis wolf) anymore with out u. I hardly ever hear anybody get called an asshat anymore lol.