posted Thu, 08/16/2012 - 11:11
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+ 3 2nd Cycle Opinions?
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First cycle.
Test Cypionate 250 - 1ml/week, 10 weeks
Arimidex - .25mg EOD, 10 weeks
PCT
Nolvadex - Wk 1 40mg ED, Wk 2-6 20mg ED
HCG - 500iu ED for 3 weeks
Gained 7 lbs, kept about 3 lbs of it after pct. Not sure if I did something wrong of if I low dosed it or what. Oh well
Second cycle
Weeks 1-12
Testosterone Cypionate – 250mg Monday/Thursday Weeks 1-10
Testosterone Propionate – 100mg EOD Weeks 1-4 and Weeks 11-12
HCG – 250iu Monday/Thursday
Arimidex - .25mg EOD
or without the prop? Adding too much? What you guys think?
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smallguyI will be pinning 250mg of Cyp every Monday/Thursday.
+1 for a well planned cycle and not having your head up your ass by running tren at 600mg a week for your 2nd cycle.
smallguylol thanks. Not that interested in Tren. Im doing good for myself so far.
Smart fella.
Great cycle for someone who is still getting "their feet wet". I just wish other new members to AAS would be as smart as you.
smallguyThanks a lot man. Trying to do it right and get the most bang for my buck as well as keep my health in order. Not in a rush. In it for the long haul
Now that's a recipe for success! You take it slow eat right train hard and give it time. In a few years you will surpass all the summer warrior juice heads in the gym. To get dense muscle tissue take years and years of training. There's not a steroid on the planet that can replace good old hard work.
smallguythats the plan.
Anonsounds good , why not go with test e! for some reason alot think its better than cyp even though its all test so I tried test e amd honestly its awesome! if not hey go for it ur doing right by not doing anything besides test for first few cycles and gradualy increasing mg eacg cyle . I woyld have went with 500 first cycle and luke 600 for 2nd one but ur good you got correct idea . good job
smallguyIm not sure. I've read that there both pretty similar. Cypionate didnt really produce any bad sides that would deter me from running it again. Thats the only reason why I kept it in for this cycle.
What would be the difference in the 2 if I decided to run E?
test e holds less water. From my experience and reading the longer test half life=more water retention from lowest to highest is prop,sust, E, Cyp, Decanate. Their are a few in between but this is general.
Anonreally theyre both test but most claim keeping gains from test e is easier I think is what I hear I jnow I liked cycp to it had a nice kick but I love e too its got good kick to shit its all personal preference bit my fav is sust 350 lol oh yeah
I believe the half life is longer with Cyp. Also it is thought to cause less water retention. Although the last part is debatable.
Cyp is a longer half life and from my experience hold a lot more water also. From what I have experienced the long test esters = more water retention
As long as u have been running gear I'll go with ur opinion brother!
smallguyIt sounds to me like it really wouldnt make much of a difference. I'll just stick with the cyp until I have a reason not to shoot it. Good looking out guys
I think it's laid out well brother. I like the addition of Prop on a second cycle and not a completely different compound. Only thing this cycle is missing is a PCT plan.
smallguyProbably going to run this until blood work is telling me that everything is good.
Week 14-18
Clomid – 200mg ED (Week 14), 100mg ED (Week 15), 50mg ED (Week 16), 25mg ED (Week 17-18)
Arimidex - .25mg ED (Week 14-15), .25mg EOD (Week 16-17)
Is there anything I could add to that?
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
U can drop the Adex and use Aromasin for PCT along with Clomid/Nolva. 12.5mg ed for first 2 wks of PCT.
I would run HCG on cycle if I were u. 250iu 2x a wk. Or if you want to run HCG as PCT 1000iu eod for 2 wks at begining of Pct
smallguyHCG is included in the cycle at 250iu 2x/week. Should I still include it PCT?
cdaddy7PCT guru in my book
:-) not quite there yet but it is what I like reading up on the most
GS has helped me a lot. I don't want to pimp him out, but I'm sure he'll be there to help a fellow guy/gal that is serious about training and cycling the right way. Huge help for me. I'm waiting on taking the Tren brother! Partially cus I STILL HAVEN'T FUCKING RECEIVED IT!
PM me and let's talk about that. That's just too long.
smallguyOk thanks! Is running the hcg with the other pct compounds going to hinder the effects of them at all?
I personally like running HCG on cycle but it's fine if u want to use it as part of PCT. They work together just fine
smallguyI have a question about HCG if anyone wants to answer.
TO INCLUDE or NOT TO INCLUDE as a part of PCT?
And if include, when would I include? At the start of my pct or that week I take off after my last injection?
I use HCG in last week while on still until around 5 days before I start PCT, depending on what esters I've been running I might move that around a little.
250-500mcg eod depending on how small the nuts have gotten.
Using during PCT doesn't seem to help my recovery.