I will forward this on and post a reply when I get it. I already sent them the coupon # so maybe we will get more information from that. But I will send this as well, you will hear their reply as soon as I get it.
Until now we have a bad analyse from them which they excused as being INCOMPLETE. So they admited their analyse is not the correct one
THEY NEED TO PROVIDE:
1. CORECT ANALYSE
2. METHOD USED
3. VALIDATION OF THE METHOD
Please try that your next post to contain those informations. Hope you understand if they come with excuses and they do not provide those informations then the analyse is failed
Lets finish this ping pong. Is clear now they need to provide this.
and definitely don't hold anything back! Whether they are "excuses" in somebody's eyes or not, full transparency is the best option. Anything they say to you related to this thread post it brother.
OK I know you not. Just you discuss with them and obtain info we need then post them. Please do not post more of their excuses so I do not waste my time with their excuses. Please try that your next post to contain those informations. If they refuse then those labs posted are a failure
Let's finish it by maybe concentrating on your SIMEC samples and we'll handle this one beings we are being proactive by having additional samples sent unlabeled to test this lab for quantitative analysis. Luv ya buddy
I wait for him my friend. That will be done in paralel. Do not try to move attention from this lab you back so much. Probably you have a comission for them because you want to move attention but I will not let it go till we solve the analyse and clear up with this lab profesionalism
The truth of the matter is I make $0. I actually put lots of time and $ in some of the tests I post. Last time I checked the eRoids site it stated "Check your Supplier". Unfortunate how you conduct yourself with members and even customers. You roll around here like you own the place.......oh......wait......now I see. Well dang.
He is already nervous he is asking me if I put a banner on internet that I look for IDIOTS WHO PLAY ANALYSTS
Anyway someone will make a request on chamber of commerce for that company informations I am curios if they are a real company or just a phantom business. After their labs issued by them seems to be a phantom lab. I will dig ...
Anyway I think anyone who want to see truth can understand they are not honest. If were honest they should present their meyhod validation of the method and complete analyses. Simple as that without excuses. Ask me this for any analyse I posyed and I post right away.
As professor say if they do not use a pharmacopeia method they should present method and its validation.
They presented a INCOMPLET ANALYSE after their excuse but that is a bad analyse AND NOTHING ELSE
The professor contacted steroidcheck and they refused to provide any info without the receipt/cupon number of analysis.
JELLOTRIP, please provide receipt/cupon number for analysis you posted because guys from steroidcheck ask me this info before being able to answer this.
For the rest of you, please wait, you will have a surprise to see these guys do a monkey business. In their answer they are already screwing up. Just wait and you will see.
I cant provide you the coupon since there is private and personal information attached to it. I sent the coupon number back to the lab and I am waiting in their reply.
In the meantime, lets get this business with simec sorted out, I sent you their reply as well as posting it here. What we do next is up to you, thanks
The analytics in particular microbiology as well as agreed sample pick-up services are warranted over this period of time. Please send the samples accurately timed considering transport company.
Thank you for your understanding and we wish happy holidays.
When are you estimating new lab results being posted?? I have several bottles from this same 009 lot. Didn't seem under dosed compared to other test e brands. But I did have poor results (IMO) (no labs) from a bp test p bottle. It was way before your labs and I thought it was weird compared to all the other success I've had from bp products. Just wanted to thank you for the time and money you've put into this. I know your not trying to screw anybody. You just want answers and we will find out thanks to you. I myself have thousands of dollars tied up in these products and I'm hoping everything gets sorted out in the end
Thanks man, not sure when the next round of tests will be posted. We are trying to work things out with Ashop to get everything setup as soon as possible. I know Razor is waiting on some other tests as well. Could be a few weeks, I post everything as soon as I get it.
My label from Ashop is slightly different. There is no "lot" number like the one seen in this pic. It has an S: then TE002B. I've ordered Balkan before from another source and had great results. I wouldn't think this would be any different. In fact 2k worth for that matter. Orals and Inj have always been top notch. Just look at some reviews from very well known mods.
My label from Ashop is slightly different. There is no "lot" number like the one seen in this pic. It has an S: then TE002B. I've ordered Balkin before from another source and had great results. I wouldn't think this would be any different. In fact 2k worth for that matter.
First of all we write the report for the users so it is understandable for them.
If we add too much information which does not concern them then we may confuse them instead of giving them clear results about their samples.
We keep the reports concise so we give the customer only the information he/she is interested in.
1. Sample preparation
We regularly run a blanks (Solvent + Internal Standard) to check if our solvent and internal standard contain impurities.
2. Second Statement
We actually use both an internal and external standard. We make an calibration line of different concentrations of the steroid in question. We then use the ratios of steroid and internal standard to calculate the concentration of the steroid in question.
But we do not show this calibration line(s) in our reports because this information is not relevant to the user only for us to calculate the concentrations.
Besides, I have to disagree with you that an external standard should always be used because the standard addition method for instance only uses internal standards.
3. We regularly measure samples with a known concentration and then calculate the concentration with the calibration line. Then we compare the measured concentration to the known concentration to determine if there are notable differences.
4. To be able to tell you more about this we would need to know the coupon number of the analysis you’re referring to.
In conclusion
You are making a rash conclusion about our analysis.
Just because we do not state all that we do, does not mean we do not do those things.
1 Testosterone E and oils have been identified during the analysis and Testosterone E has been quantified.
2 We do not state that we follow the pharmacopeia standards. However we do perform a correct analysis.
This is the professor answer for the steroidcheck.com team. Please note that they avoid direct answer to the professor emails. Here is the professor reply, we expect a quick clarification:
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"1. Your arguments about “simplifying” the presentation of results so that could be “understandable for users” are not plausible, and not at all professional. It does not show any proof that you have done the correct analysis.
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2. Bragging on in the internet is an easy thing to do. On the other hand, if you do have the methods and the complete results, please be so kind to post them (chromatograms, calculations etc.).
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***#
3. The standard must have passed the process of standardization, if it is not pharmacopeic. Please post proof of passing this process. What did you use as standard, for the initial standardization?
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4. You cannot use the internal standard alone. The internal standard must be added to the sample and to the external standard.
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5. If you insist that you are right, and not a trolling con artist, please provide us with the information and complete results."
They are crooks, such an answer is dissapointing and my professor is able to PROVE they lie. That's very strange. Please send coupon number so professor will be able to get answers directly from them.
AnonI will forward this on and post a reply when I get it. I already sent them the coupon # so maybe we will get more information from that. But I will send this as well, you will hear their reply as soon as I get it.
Until now we have a bad analyse from them which they excused as being INCOMPLETE. So they admited their analyse is not the correct one
THEY NEED TO PROVIDE:
1. CORECT ANALYSE
2. METHOD USED
3. VALIDATION OF THE METHOD
Please try that your next post to contain those informations. Hope you understand if they come with excuses and they do not provide those informations then the analyse is failed
Lets finish this ping pong. Is clear now they need to provide this.
AnonI'm doing the best I can, everything that has been said has been forwarded to everyone involved. I'm not holding anything back.
P2i2tand definitely don't hold anything back! Whether they are "excuses" in somebody's eyes or not, full transparency is the best option. Anything they say to you related to this thread post it brother.
AnonYou know I will bro
OK I know you not. Just you discuss with them and obtain info we need then post them. Please do not post more of their excuses so I do not waste my time with their excuses. Please try that your next post to contain those informations. If they refuse then those labs posted are a failure
AnonWorkin on it, I've got some other things I am researching as well ;)
Let's finish it by maybe concentrating on your SIMEC samples and we'll handle this one beings we are being proactive by having additional samples sent unlabeled to test this lab for quantitative analysis. Luv ya buddy
First I want this cleared up. Meantime I arrange things with Simec..
I will not trust anything analysed by you just to be cautios. What was your role here ?
You already hand picked a non-biased member for sampling at SIMEC. Let's get that going.
I wait for him my friend. That will be done in paralel. Do not try to move attention from this lab you back so much. Probably you have a comission for them because you want to move attention but I will not let it go till we solve the analyse and clear up with this lab profesionalism
The truth of the matter is I make $0. I actually put lots of time and $ in some of the tests I post. Last time I checked the eRoids site it stated "Check your Supplier". Unfortunate how you conduct yourself with members and even customers. You roll around here like you own the place.......oh......wait......now I see. Well dang.
What exactly are you implying here?
P2i2tso even your professor cannot hold a mature debate without creating insults huh? Lol unreal....
He's an angry professor.
He is already nervous he is asking me if I put a banner on internet that I look for IDIOTS WHO PLAY ANALYSTS
Anyway someone will make a request on chamber of commerce for that company informations I am curios if they are a real company or just a phantom business. After their labs issued by them seems to be a phantom lab. I will dig ...
Anyway I think anyone who want to see truth can understand they are not honest. If were honest they should present their meyhod validation of the method and complete analyses. Simple as that without excuses. Ask me this for any analyse I posyed and I post right away.
As professor say if they do not use a pharmacopeia method they should present method and its validation.
They presented a INCOMPLET ANALYSE after their excuse but that is a bad analyse AND NOTHING ELSE
"Professional professor"=)
Should we contact the "Chamber of Commerce" to see who is a Legit Illegal steroid distributor? WaaDaaFuuu?!
They claim to be legal business so lets see
Are you listed on this "Chamber of Commerce"?......maybe "The Better Business Bureau"?
I do not claim to be legit lab that charge VISA like that lab . Do not play games sneaky razor
HeeeeHeeee
I frikkn luv ya buddy
So your not officially a legit lab. Thanks for clearing that up
I am not a lab. I am a online shop.
Lab is the one making tests.
Seems your english is worse than mine
Only of we use your return Addy .....lol
I really live in MOLDOVA
That made me laugh.
The professor contacted steroidcheck and they refused to provide any info without the receipt/cupon number of analysis.
JELLOTRIP, please provide receipt/cupon number for analysis you posted because guys from steroidcheck ask me this info before being able to answer this.
For the rest of you, please wait, you will have a surprise to see these guys do a monkey business. In their answer they are already screwing up. Just wait and you will see.
Ajax
AnonI cant provide you the coupon since there is private and personal information attached to it. I sent the coupon number back to the lab and I am waiting in their reply.
In the meantime, lets get this business with simec sorted out, I sent you their reply as well as posting it here. What we do next is up to you, thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkJT how long did it take you to get simech to respond back? I emailed monday and have not heard back yet
Just a heads up:
Dear customer,
we would like to inform you about our special business hours during the following weeks:
01.05.2015 (Labor Day) closed
14.05.2015 (Ascension Day) closed
22.05.2015 (Company outing) closed
25.05.2015 (Whitsuntide) closed
04.06.2015 (Corpus Christi) normal operation
03.07.2015 (Local Holiday) closed
The analytics in particular microbiology as well as agreed sample pick-up services are warranted over this period of time. Please send the samples accurately timed considering transport company.
Thank you for your understanding and we wish happy holidays.
Best regards
Your Simec-Team
AnonEmailed them friday last week, heard back monday, so should be soon bro
When are you estimating new lab results being posted?? I have several bottles from this same 009 lot. Didn't seem under dosed compared to other test e brands. But I did have poor results (IMO) (no labs) from a bp test p bottle. It was way before your labs and I thought it was weird compared to all the other success I've had from bp products. Just wanted to thank you for the time and money you've put into this. I know your not trying to screw anybody. You just want answers and we will find out thanks to you. I myself have thousands of dollars tied up in these products and I'm hoping everything gets sorted out in the end
AnonThanks man, not sure when the next round of tests will be posted. We are trying to work things out with Ashop to get everything setup as soon as possible. I know Razor is waiting on some other tests as well. Could be a few weeks, I post everything as soon as I get it.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkMy label from Ashop is slightly different. There is no "lot" number like the one seen in this pic. It has an S: then TE002B. I've ordered Balkan before from another source and had great results. I wouldn't think this would be any different. In fact 2k worth for that matter. Orals and Inj have always been top notch. Just look at some reviews from very well known mods.
AnonLike this one:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/ashop-bp-anastrolole-tabs-and-bp-test-e
Maybe thats how they label the new batches, I'm not sure. When is your expiration date?
Yes, 12/2019. Deca had lot 8. Not sure what the difference is. Maybe A can chime in.
You can ask support bc I do not know such details. Anyway each BP product has a upic. Check that UPIC please to confirm your product is original
AnonYeah I don't know, maybe Ashop can clarify. I emailed Balkan some questions last week but they haven't got back to me yet.
My label from Ashop is slightly different. There is no "lot" number like the one seen in this pic. It has an S: then TE002B. I've ordered Balkin before from another source and had great results. I wouldn't think this would be any different. In fact 2k worth for that matter.
AnonHow long ago did you get it?
Today! Deca had the lot number 8 but the test E had the S:.
Anonlol, interesting. I got my Test E back in December or January I think.
here is my gear from ashop... please vote to decide what gets sent in.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/gear-for-testing-no-karma-please
AnonResponse from gc/ms lab:
Dear Sir/Madam,
First of all we write the report for the users so it is understandable for them.
If we add too much information which does not concern them then we may confuse them instead of giving them clear results about their samples.
We keep the reports concise so we give the customer only the information he/she is interested in.
1. Sample preparation
We regularly run a blanks (Solvent + Internal Standard) to check if our solvent and internal standard contain impurities.
2. Second Statement
We actually use both an internal and external standard. We make an calibration line of different concentrations of the steroid in question. We then use the ratios of steroid and internal standard to calculate the concentration of the steroid in question.
But we do not show this calibration line(s) in our reports because this information is not relevant to the user only for us to calculate the concentrations.
Besides, I have to disagree with you that an external standard should always be used because the standard addition method for instance only uses internal standards.
3. We regularly measure samples with a known concentration and then calculate the concentration with the calibration line. Then we compare the measured concentration to the known concentration to determine if there are notable differences.
4. To be able to tell you more about this we would need to know the coupon number of the analysis you’re referring to.
In conclusion
You are making a rash conclusion about our analysis.
Just because we do not state all that we do, does not mean we do not do those things.
1 Testosterone E and oils have been identified during the analysis and Testosterone E has been quantified.
2 We do not state that we follow the pharmacopeia standards. However we do perform a correct analysis.
Kind regards,
The Steroid Check Analysis Team
www.steroidcheck.com
With best regards,
Marno Jungbeker
Marketing Director
This is the professor answer for the steroidcheck.com team. Please note that they avoid direct answer to the professor emails. Here is the professor reply, we expect a quick clarification:
***
***#
"1. Your arguments about “simplifying” the presentation of results so that could be “understandable for users” are not plausible, and not at all professional. It does not show any proof that you have done the correct analysis.
***
***#
2. Bragging on in the internet is an easy thing to do. On the other hand, if you do have the methods and the complete results, please be so kind to post them (chromatograms, calculations etc.).
***
***#
3. The standard must have passed the process of standardization, if it is not pharmacopeic. Please post proof of passing this process. What did you use as standard, for the initial standardization?
***
***#
4. You cannot use the internal standard alone. The internal standard must be added to the sample and to the external standard.
***
***#
5. If you insist that you are right, and not a trolling con artist, please provide us with the information and complete results."
They are crooks, such an answer is dissapointing and my professor is able to PROVE they lie. That's very strange. Please send coupon number so professor will be able to get answers directly from them.
Ajax
International illegal steroid distributor
Purchasing illegal steroids on the internet
Technically we are all "crooks"
<3
If you consider yourself dishonest is your problem
You Lie! You are ANGUS behind this "fake" email! =)
I'll get that coupon # and email or PM it to you. (Jello did not receive the coupon # because my personal info may have been attached to it)
Thanks again for all the research.
Anonlol I was about to ask you for it, thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalink