How about this lab seems like they have all analytic methods including HPLC, Gas Chromatography and some couple more available and they have labs all round the world so anyone could choose the country they feel comfortable to.
If you are serious I will donate gear to the cause and help out with testing costs. Only thing I care about is finding the truth. That and a cheap accurate raw testing service. I would like for it to be public as hell.
Im very serious about this. I agree with you, getting the truth through accurate and thorough testing should be a priority here. I have nothing against anyone personally, just want honest answers.
Set it up and get it approved by the mods. I can personally make some get with various dosing and label them A,B,C. I could give the dosing to a MOD so they can reveal after test results are posted. We could have a couple sources do this. I am open to help anyway I can.
Question:
How will you know what the correct dosing is? Accurate powder purity?
I'm just going to send an unlabeled sample from my Compound Pharmacy that I know should be correctly dosed and the oil content is labeled so the lab should be able to pick that up as well.
I personally believe the test results on dosing is off. Not because of labs but because of what is needed to find the true dosing. We need a true blind test to find the truth.
Could you please elaborate on this? I find it somewhat confusing.
I have a question for you . I mean we see this test done quite often and recent blood work to show low numbers so it's not just one specific Testing that has been done lately . Maybe everyone who has recently had blood work done can look at this and post their results here and we can see if the numbers match in range of the mg/mL
I will bet money this test can not provide dosing. I am not saying Ashop is putting out perfect gear because I do not have a clue. Never ran it. Bloods are not a solid method either. Euroking has a good idea going I believe. I would like for a few sources to get together and test these results along with a few members. I really think together we can all get the answer.
You´re a good man Fina how about making a deal so both members and src sends samples through that "account" that might decrease the price per test in benefit for especially members. I belive Hailrazor also got quite a few labs to compare with and his intention of helping this community is obvious to any one I hope.
I have best intentions for the Eroids and will do anything I can to improve it. I agree hail is doing this for the best intentions and should be praised for it. I am not questioning him just the test.
we on same boat buddy, the issue is supplier/source/manufacturer of products only accepts HPLC especially for raws and how can we know the raw sample we get from them is actually what is been used in production for that particulalar batch that is questioned of oils/tabs and since the HPLC only shows dosage of finished products of what I know at least and most members trust the mass spec more than HPLC we are not getting anywhere as when we tell labs we want to test the active substance they won´t accept anything else than HPLC and many like you are doubting on dosage analytics, not blaming you for anything I only get more confused everytime this talk comes up.
Where the fuck is the professor to chime in lol :-)
I with you. I do not have a clue about this shit.I read a lot on it but still cant say I know anything. I just see that this testing shit needs to be proved right or wrong.
The 2 US labs I use are Credited Labs with Pharmacy/DEA license #s. The test results can be used in court for legal means. So I don't think it's necessary to test the US Analysis Labs like we test "Generic" Chinese HGH. They can "reverse engineer" a sample if asked.
I think I have an answer for this lab to confirm. But, this lab uses a "Standard" for quantitative testing that you see posted.
Hey jello, im pretty positive Exq1Wcm3rVP5VG is not the batch number, its the upic number. You use the upic number to check the authenticity of your product on the bp website. Every vial has its own unique code that can only be checked once. You will not find another vial with Exq1Wcm3rVP5VG. The lot # 009 is considered the batch number, every vial with 009 will be from the same batch.
Yes it was 100% measured with the ester. Otherwise it wouldn't clarified that it was testosterone enanthate like it does. But this sucks to see because I always pinned Balkan as a stand-up lab. but this along with the recent blood results that this stemmed from 100% shows otherwise. Thank you for posting +1
Now I'm very very curious. I'm also running Balkan t3, parabolan, and anavar. I would love to see the results on the parabolan. I though Balkan was pharma grade ???
Even with the results of the test. I am getting great results and always have from ashop. Alin has always done me good plus they have great promos. I will still stick with them. This one may have been a fluke batch or something. I'm curious on ashops response though.
If you are happy with your results then more power to you. I'd prefer to know Im getting what I pay for. And having great promos doesnt make up for putting out underdosed gear. All its good for is padding your rank.
As far as balkan being pharma grade, thats always been debatable in my opinion.
Maybe a fluke batch, maybe not. Why skimp on a product that is way cheaper than parabolan or anavar? I have nothing against ashop, I would simply like an honest explanation.
How about this lab seems like they have all analytic methods including HPLC, Gas Chromatography and some couple more available and they have labs all round the world so anyone could choose the country they feel comfortable to.
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/united-kingdom.html
AnonThanks Ill look into it
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkWell what one of the fine outstanding members need to send samples to both labs and compare results.
AnonIll see what I can do
If you are serious I will donate gear to the cause and help out with testing costs. Only thing I care about is finding the truth. That and a cheap accurate raw testing service. I would like for it to be public as hell.
AnonIm very serious about this. I agree with you, getting the truth through accurate and thorough testing should be a priority here. I have nothing against anyone personally, just want honest answers.
Set it up and get it approved by the mods. I can personally make some get with various dosing and label them A,B,C. I could give the dosing to a MOD so they can reveal after test results are posted. We could have a couple sources do this. I am open to help anyway I can.
AnonIll get on it tomorrow. Ill message you and the mods and we can get this sorted out.
Good times my friend.
Question:
How will you know what the correct dosing is? Accurate powder purity?
I'm just going to send an unlabeled sample from my Compound Pharmacy that I know should be correctly dosed and the oil content is labeled so the lab should be able to pick that up as well.
We could take a pharma sample and add oil to it to change to dose.
Gotcha. Perfect.
We have a bunch of smart guys around here. We can all work together to do this. It will help members and sources which makes this site better.
The US Lab I use tests other Labs samples.
You need to use this Lab. Have your people get in touch with my people.
lol Whats there #
1-MOL-DOV-AMOB
That "Expert Tox" watermark on some of my test results isn't there just for show.
MODs must approve
AnonCould you please elaborate on this? I find it somewhat confusing.
AnonHmmm
Lol that all you got?
AnonI have a question for you . I mean we see this test done quite often and recent blood work to show low numbers so it's not just one specific Testing that has been done lately . Maybe everyone who has recently had blood work done can look at this and post their results here and we can see if the numbers match in range of the mg/mL
I will bet money this test can not provide dosing. I am not saying Ashop is putting out perfect gear because I do not have a clue. Never ran it. Bloods are not a solid method either. Euroking has a good idea going I believe. I would like for a few sources to get together and test these results along with a few members. I really think together we can all get the answer.
You´re a good man Fina how about making a deal so both members and src sends samples through that "account" that might decrease the price per test in benefit for especially members. I belive Hailrazor also got quite a few labs to compare with and his intention of helping this community is obvious to any one I hope.
I have best intentions for the Eroids and will do anything I can to improve it. I agree hail is doing this for the best intentions and should be praised for it. I am not questioning him just the test.
we on same boat buddy, the issue is supplier/source/manufacturer of products only accepts HPLC especially for raws and how can we know the raw sample we get from them is actually what is been used in production for that particulalar batch that is questioned of oils/tabs and since the HPLC only shows dosage of finished products of what I know at least and most members trust the mass spec more than HPLC we are not getting anywhere as when we tell labs we want to test the active substance they won´t accept anything else than HPLC and many like you are doubting on dosage analytics, not blaming you for anything I only get more confused everytime this talk comes up.
Where the fuck is the professor to chime in lol :-)
Simec does MS/HPLC
I with you. I do not have a clue about this shit.I read a lot on it but still cant say I know anything. I just see that this testing shit needs to be proved right or wrong.
Yip, if the test isn't accurate what's the point. But, I'll go out in a limb on this one.....lab test.....some recent look work.....doesn't look good.
I think it's a great idea. I have a sample that I think will be good. Especially since this lab breaks down oil content, etc.
The 2 US labs I use are Credited Labs with Pharmacy/DEA license #s. The test results can be used in court for legal means. So I don't think it's necessary to test the US Analysis Labs like we test "Generic" Chinese HGH. They can "reverse engineer" a sample if asked.
I think I have an answer for this lab to confirm. But, this lab uses a "Standard" for quantitative testing that you see posted.
AnonNot a bad idea.
AnonDam I have like 5 bottles from the same batch too ..
Wtf!!! This is devastating. I would love to see a response to this...... +1 for this find all day
Hopefully ashop let's everyone know what's up plus two
AnonPosted link in the si as well, hope to get some reply.
Thanks for posting, the past few tests I've seen haven't turned out to well.
AnonYeah bloods have not been great lately..
Hitman187Hey jello, im pretty positive Exq1Wcm3rVP5VG is not the batch number, its the upic number. You use the upic number to check the authenticity of your product on the bp website. Every vial has its own unique code that can only be checked once. You will not find another vial with Exq1Wcm3rVP5VG. The lot # 009 is considered the batch number, every vial with 009 will be from the same batch.
AnonAppreciate the correction sir! Edited
Thanks!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkOh snap he told u that need to know info and now u must die that's what a hitman does bro miss u
AnonLmao!
P2i2tYes it was 100% measured with the ester. Otherwise it wouldn't clarified that it was testosterone enanthate like it does. But this sucks to see because I always pinned Balkan as a stand-up lab. but this along with the recent blood results that this stemmed from 100% shows otherwise. Thank you for posting +1
AnonThanks man I agree with you.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkcleveland1The batch I have is fvlgxd7cpegicn. Lot. 009.
Now I'm very very curious. I'm also running Balkan t3, parabolan, and anavar. I would love to see the results on the parabolan. I though Balkan was pharma grade ???
Even with the results of the test. I am getting great results and always have from ashop. Alin has always done me good plus they have great promos. I will still stick with them. This one may have been a fluke batch or something. I'm curious on ashops response though.
AnonIf you are happy with your results then more power to you. I'd prefer to know Im getting what I pay for. And having great promos doesnt make up for putting out underdosed gear. All its good for is padding your rank.
As far as balkan being pharma grade, thats always been debatable in my opinion.
Maybe a fluke batch, maybe not. Why skimp on a product that is way cheaper than parabolan or anavar? I have nothing against ashop, I would simply like an honest explanation.
RustyhookerAwesome to post! Hope there's clarification on the test. Was is measured without the ester? Or with?
AnonIm thinking it was measured with the ester. The results show 162mg of test e, not testosterone without any ester.
RustyhookerThey'd better step up their game then. Awfully expensive for severely underdosed.
100% agree bro
AnonYessir