It is something, but holy shit can I just get some accurately dosed gear? Doesnt have to be spot on but this is pretty underdosed, and test e is cheap to produce. Makes me question all their products.
Doesn't the ester weight count for the difference? It says there are 162.9 mg test e. I don't know what the enanthate ester weighs but I know 250 mg test e isn't actually 250 mgs test e., it's less because of the ester weight. Even if that's the case it still looks to be a bit underdosed. But...I could be wrong..
Last picture the conclusion paragraph states that it is testosterone enanthate at 162 mg/ml. That makes me believe they didn't calculate for the ester.
Also the third to last picture gives the molecular formula of test e and states its 162mg/ml
Interesting. So if it said 162mg/ml of testosterone and not testosterone Enanthate do you think that would mean the ester weight would have been accounted for?
I would think they would state that somewhere on the documents otherwise it would be misleading info. Are you able to contact the testers and ask them direct? That would be the sure fire way to confirm what the calculations are.
gotcha, didnt know if had ever heard from him about it. idk who knows who on here except for the cronies that follow sources lol. i sent a pm to hail so we will see, i fr you and ill pm you if i find out
Well I hope you are right, I just assumed there would be ~250mg of test per ml. I dont know if the test separates the ester from the hormone before measuring, or if thats possible...
It says 250mg test E is equivalent to 180mg testosterone, it can't say of course that 250mg test E is 180mg test E ;) and the mess spec quantifies of course the present of test E and not "ester free" testosterone
But - I may think of few factors that may effect and create such results, I may ask my chemist, I will try, I suggest you guys not to run to fatal conclusions so fast
I'm just shooting from what I see, and I'm not an analytic chemist - but going over all the pages I don't see any explanation or specification how they found (or based on what) the concentration of 162mg/ml or so ......
Says the true dose per 100mg of Test E is 70mg (once you account for the ester weight). so 2.5* 70= 175mg. The test shows 162.9. Now I have no idea if it works that way or not. Thats a question for someone else to answer....
This is a good point, maybe someone with more knowledge on this can help.
Other mass spec I have seen usually take the ester into consideration. So if something is supposed to be 100mg/ml and it tests to like 99mg/ml then obviously the ester weight was considered.
Have you ran any of this yet? I know how mass specs have caused hissy fits in the past. +1 for paying for the test. I know that wasn't cheap but very valuable to the community.
Correct. There have been a couple blood tests I remember seeing over the past months that were not great. Could be more I cant remember, will have to go back and look when I get a chance.
Thanks for this! Already been said, but this is why we are here to look out for our fellow users. Even if this is an anomoly its important for us to remember that quality is not always a given, regardless how good a source or lab is/has been.
Damn i have the same stuff. if they cant get test e rite im guessing all my primo is bunk to. And i guess that whole story where supposedly the moldovan government tests every batch before releasing it is some more b.s too. Its got to be if this is legit form of testing. Very disapointed but thanks for testing. +1
IM RIGHT HERE YOU PUSSY ASS BITCH... lol jk.. I advocate for ashop because I have never had a problem but this is interesting. Only bloods I pulled from BP oils was their prop and I was right where I should be and felt great. would love to see what ashop says.
Makes me curious now... thanks Jello for the oil sacrifice! +1
Thanks, I hope this doesn't turn into a shitstorm. Its why this site exists, I know sources don't always have control over this stuff. I would just appreciate an honest answer.
Love to see these tests!
+2
AnonThanks bud, glad I could be part of it
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI am considering using this same lab for some stuff. Good to see the results. +1
I'm sorry but the 10 ten pics say 162 of testo enantathe and not only testosterone.
AnonYeah I think im leaning towards that. If there was 250mg of test e in the sample it would have said so.
Damn I swear the last time I ran these they were the strongest I've used
Thanks bro
AnonWell at least its good to know if I want it to be close to 250mg i have to pin 1.5ml lol
Yeah not bad
Pin that shit!
AnonStill gonna use it, at least now I know exactly how much im getting. At least pip should be non existent lol.
Do Bostin Lloyds protocol 3cc here and 3cc here lol
lol
This is sad :/ I have a lot of this as well.. +1
still 162.9mg well fuck at least there is something inside.
Interesting to see what they will say in reply.
I have made two orders with them so far.
AnonIt is something, but holy shit can I just get some accurately dosed gear? Doesnt have to be spot on but this is pretty underdosed, and test e is cheap to produce. Makes me question all their products.
Yeah definitely agree with you. I am currently running there BP SUST 250mg and honestly not to impressed.
AnonHow far in are you? You gonna pull bloods?
rocketballzDoesn't the ester weight count for the difference? It says there are 162.9 mg test e. I don't know what the enanthate ester weighs but I know 250 mg test e isn't actually 250 mgs test e., it's less because of the ester weight. Even if that's the case it still looks to be a bit underdosed. But...I could be wrong..
Last picture the conclusion paragraph states that it is testosterone enanthate at 162 mg/ml. That makes me believe they didn't calculate for the ester.
Also the third to last picture gives the molecular formula of test e and states its 162mg/ml
AnonInteresting. So if it said 162mg/ml of testosterone and not testosterone Enanthate do you think that would mean the ester weight would have been accounted for?
I would think they would state that somewhere on the documents otherwise it would be misleading info. Are you able to contact the testers and ask them direct? That would be the sure fire way to confirm what the calculations are.
AnonI think it should say 250mg of test e if dosed accurately. I will try and contact the testing agency to confirm.
Are you in a position to share the lab ?
AnonOne of ones razor uses. He helped a great deal setting this up. Shoot me a pm if you need more specifics, I dont have all the info but have some.
Will do.
prob whoever hailrazor uses... if that helps you
Not really bro. Idk who he uses either.
gotcha, didnt know if had ever heard from him about it. idk who knows who on here except for the cronies that follow sources lol. i sent a pm to hail so we will see, i fr you and ill pm you if i find out
No worries man. I'm sure he'll drop by anyways.
AnonWell I hope you are right, I just assumed there would be ~250mg of test per ml. I dont know if the test separates the ester from the hormone before measuring, or if thats possible...
On my bayer testoviron 250mg says 180mg of test e, now I do not know if the ester weight is taken into account on the mass spec.
It says 250mg test E is equivalent to 180mg testosterone, it can't say of course that 250mg test E is 180mg test E ;) and the mess spec quantifies of course the present of test E and not "ester free" testosterone
But - I may think of few factors that may effect and create such results, I may ask my chemist, I will try, I suggest you guys not to run to fatal conclusions so fast
Bad choice of words but you got my point
I'm just shooting from what I see, and I'm not an analytic chemist - but going over all the pages I don't see any explanation or specification how they found (or based on what) the concentration of 162mg/ml or so ......
I got you.
AnonWould appreciate the help clearing this up. Thanks for explaining
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonYeah it is an interesting point
you may be on to something here... ChampionOfTheMind posted this before he got banned.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/the-true-drip...
Says the true dose per 100mg of Test E is 70mg (once you account for the ester weight). so 2.5* 70= 175mg. The test shows 162.9. Now I have no idea if it works that way or not. Thats a question for someone else to answer....
Thanks for bringing this up RB
AnonThis is a good point, maybe someone with more knowledge on this can help.
Other mass spec I have seen usually take the ester into consideration. So if something is supposed to be 100mg/ml and it tests to like 99mg/ml then obviously the ester weight was considered.
Not sure about this one. Maybe razor knows.
Have you ran any of this yet? I know how mass specs have caused hissy fits in the past. +1 for paying for the test. I know that wasn't cheap but very valuable to the community.
AnonHavent run it yet, was saving it for my next cycle.
Ahh I see that you sent this in because of a previous blood test that looked it was appeared underdosed.
AnonCorrect. There have been a couple blood tests I remember seeing over the past months that were not great. Could be more I cant remember, will have to go back and look when I get a chance.
Thanks for this! Already been said, but this is why we are here to look out for our fellow users. Even if this is an anomoly its important for us to remember that quality is not always a given, regardless how good a source or lab is/has been.
Hitman187Damn i have the same stuff. if they cant get test e rite im guessing all my primo is bunk to. And i guess that whole story where supposedly the moldovan government tests every batch before releasing it is some more b.s too. Its got to be if this is legit form of testing. Very disapointed but thanks for testing. +1
AnonI was actually thinking of you and some other guys specifically who mentioned the primo.
Waiting for all the fanboys and ashops ignorance. Thanks for getting it done JT
IM RIGHT HERE YOU PUSSY ASS BITCH... lol jk.. I advocate for ashop because I have never had a problem but this is interesting. Only bloods I pulled from BP oils was their prop and I was right where I should be and felt great. would love to see what ashop says.
Makes me curious now... thanks Jello for the oil sacrifice! +1
AnonThanks, I hope this doesn't turn into a shitstorm. Its why this site exists, I know sources don't always have control over this stuff. I would just appreciate an honest answer.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIt won't turn into a shitstorm, if anyone negs you for pulling labs they'll find their karma zero'd!