Winter Cutting(ish) Cycle
Yo guys. So I'm basically trying to make the transition from powerlifting to bodybuilding. I've always trained as a bodybuilder but did powerlifting meets for fun. Recently I've been getting set back in my training from joint pain due to heavy ass weight getting ready for powerlifting meets, so I'm done with that and seriously focusing on getting into bodybuilding shape, hoping to get on stage sometime next summer.
So anyway, I'm taking these next few months to cut down to around 10% bf. I'm sitting around 18% now. I'm 22, 5'5" and 198 lbs. I've done 3 other cycles before this one I'm starting...
9 weeks
75mg Test P, 75mg Mast every day
Maybe throw in some anavar the last few weeks?
standard nolva/clomid pct
Any thoughts/opinions are greatly appreciated.
Daily Macros-
350g protein
4 day carb cycle (50g, 150g, 150g, 300g) and repeat
75-100g fat
All clean food for the past 2 months. Went from 215 to 198 during that time keep all my strength with minimal cardio. Upping my cardio to 30 minutes every other day since the gains kinda tapered off.
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mick118Just do test for cutting at your bf
try to lose 1-2 pounds per week.
you can cut without cardio - just cant eat as much.
Sub 10%(once you see abs) then you can try a hardening aas like mast/winny.
Key to cutting is drinking plenty of water. Then you dont get hungry while you are in a calorific defecit.
Well I've noticed after years of learning my body, that I can keep growing lean mass while cutting fat by eating more as long as I keep up with cardio. Right now I'm at 45 minutes every other day, and training 6 days a week. I'm gaining strength and I've been dropping fat like crazy, already down about 12 lbs in 2 months. I'm gonna stay natty until I'm around 10% then see what happens when I pick a bodybuilding show for next year. Thanks for your input though my dude!
Hey mate mast is pretty much for harding up and also as some ai properties. just stick with the test and an oral or 2 like dbol the first 4 or 5 weeks and will at the last 4 or 5 weeks. anyway you can cut on on ass just some help more but the tes will do fine
Yeah you need to get bf to 10 before you think about mast. If i were you analyze your diet, do some hiit cardio and focus on bf lowering right now. Once you get near 10 then consider a cutter. Dont waste your money... you wont get the results you want.
Mast and var wont do shit for u at that 18% Bf %,,, your pretty yound man stick to test cycles n kill it in the gym n kitchen!
thanks for the input man, killin in in the gym is what i live for day in and day out!
You should post your diet bro... I got a good one if ur interested.
I just put up my macros. Thanks I'd like to see the one your talkin about
if you are trying to get rid of bf I wouldn't rely on shakes to much. solid food is always better. post work out shakes are ok but after that I think it's hyped to much. I got caught up in the shakes when I started out and once I went to just solid food I made the best gains in mass I have ever seen on me I grew so much I got stretch marks on my chest going in to my bis. try it and you wont be disappointed.
I totally agree with this. For a while I was getting 4 meals and 2 shakes a day. I made the switch to ALL whole foods a while back. It was practically like being on juice the gains were ridiculous. Stretch marks from delts to biceps, from lats to delts, even quads. People under estimate how important FOOD is lol.
Bro I just follow this diet as it is not worrying abt counting macros and ive bin on it for about 60 days now and im down 12lbs so far, i have a high BF like you n this diet has worked or me to bring it down so give it a go if youd like and change things up to fit your lifestyle.
I like doing cardio on empty before meal 1 around 6:30 am, boostes your metabolism like crazy so it helps with fat loss bro.:)
Meal 1: whey protein shake 2scoops/1 egg/1 ccup oats/1 cup plain non fat yogurt, 2tbs cold milled flax seed oil,& 1 bananna.
Meal2: 7 egg whites 3 whole egg w/ 1/2 cup of sweet potatos OR 1/2 cup of brown rice.
Meal 3: whey protein shake 2scoops 1tbs flax seed oil.
Meal 4 : 4-8oz of ground turkey 1/2 cup brown rice
(Meals 1-4 are all before 2pm)
Meal 5: 6oz chicken breast with 1/2 cup of brocholli.
Meal 6: 2 scoops Casein shake with 100% pure almond milk.
(to start slowing down digestion)
Meal 7: 8-10oz fish. Tiilapia and 1/2 cup of brocholli.
Meal 8: casein shake 2 scoops (30min before bed to fire up the metabolism and feed muscles through the night.)
(Not too sure how many macros there is)lol
N i drink nothing but water each meal, and have maybe 1 cheat meal per week bro!:)
I like the way that all looks, and honestly mine isn't TOO different from that. I like knowing my macros so I can see how slight variations can effect my progress. I also prep all my meals 2x a week so it takes a lot less time when I can just grab tupperware container #3 when its grub time! Also considering I'm basically only home when its time to sleep, it's way easier to be able to take a bunch of containers with me when I leave in the morning rather than stressing to figure out how I'm gonna get a meal in while I'm not home.
My opinion is you've ran too much gear too young. 3 cycles already and you're 22? You're on a path to TRT by the time you're 30.
I know man, I hate sounding like the cliche young guy that knows its too young but does it anyway. I know the endocrine system isn't fully developed until 24ish. But I mean Justin Compton just turned pro at nationals and he's 24! I'm not saying I have what it takes to be a pro bodybuilder, but heck man I'd die trying.
Whatever you decide to do, your proposed cycle isn't the way to go. You also need to drop bf before any more cycles, 18% is too high and can lead to problems even at your age.
I'm not going to propose a cycle to you because of your age, but you've got a good attitude and I wish you good luck.
Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate your advice and I'll definitely take it all into consideration