Test Flu - Why does it vary between brands?
So I've done a lot of research about test flu, the cause, the treatment, and such. But I'm curious why one would react differently from one brand of gear to another. Here's the back story...
I've ran prop once before. I steered clear of it for a while after that because of issues with pip, but I NEVER had any slight symptoms of test flu. I ran 75mg ED for 8 weeks.
Now I'm 10 weeks out from my first show, and I'm switching to all short esters. The first day I pinned the prop (difference brand than the cycle I previously mentioned), approximately 7 hours later I felt like I was hit buy a bus. My whole body was freezing cold, I was sweating uncontrollably, and I was achey all over. Typical flu-like symptoms so I figured I was just coming down with something... I woke up the next morning fine, yet my bed was drenched in sweat. I pinned prop the second time a day later and the same reaction occurred. This is on only 50mg ED. Once that happened again I did my research and learned all about test flu and self diagnosed myself. Now a week later and the symptoms have yet to subside. I feel great in the morning then sick as a dog in the evening until the next day.
Okay so I know a good remedy is vitamin c and zinc to boost your immune system. I started that protocol yesterday so I'm hoping that should help. But my real question is WHY? Why would I be fine with one brand pinning a higher daily dose and feel like death pinning a lower dose of another brand? Could it be that since I've been dieting my immune system isn't as strong as when I ran it the first time? Any input/experience would be extremely appreciated.
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I thinking different brand different concoction methods. Some guys use different additives to their powders. I saw one top source uses EO or something which might cause flu like symptoms, even if their top source, I will stay away from that personally
I recently had my 1st run of prop all from one source to. Funny thing is the 1st 10ml vial went smooth as silk very minimal pip. Once I popped the second vial is when shit got real. I had the same problem sweat like a werewolf in my sleep felt like shit but only on days I pinned and when I popped the 3rd vial it was all smooth sailing again.....weird right?....and this was all from the same source/lab 150mgs eod is what I was running
It seems like you're getting a little bit of the compound in your circulation. What you are describing applies to all steroids at the IM sight. If this happens on a Tren injection, it is so irritating - getting a couple of drops in your bloods stream - your body will try to eliminate it with a cough. For a mild compound like Test, getting some outside the muscle site into the blood will make you feel run down and sick for a few hours or a few days. If the lab is using the same carrier oil that you have used with success, it's not that. I like EO, but MCT oil (refined coconut) is best. Most labs do not invest in MCT oil as it is viewed as overkill. MCT oil is a food and gentle on the system. Followed by grape seed (GSO), cotton seed (CSO) etc. In a well executed glute shot you should be able to aspirate - if you draw anything but clear- find another site until it heals and use a different area. Also be consistent with your pin gauge size. I stick with 22 g 1.5 inch 3 cc rigs. If you're not in and out with the needle and u wobble it u will get some excess bleeding. Warm the oil to a consistent temp before injection. I also use one needle to draw, change needles, and then inject. I want the hole in the skin and muscle to be as sharp as possible. You can also take a warm shower to disperse the oil after, but practice is key and down the road I doubt you will continue to have problems. If it's agonizing, I would cut the compound with MCT oil.
If u ever have any reason to believe you might have a microbe somewhere - and you don't want to toss everything (which I recommend) PM me and I will teach you how to sterilize gear with a Whatman's syringe filter.
thanks for the advice man I'm gonna try it,
also, FR sent I have another question
You just described my exact method of doctoring man I mean spot on. I already do exactly that except for delts and quads I use 23g 1". But the process of warming the oil and swapping pins is the same. Rotation is delts, ventro, glute , and quads.I still run just test and never been over 600 mg a week. It was just weird how that second vial was doing that to me. My wife handles the injections for me for some
reason I think she likes it ...lol....she studied nursing in college . I ran 30ml of prop as a kicker to the cycle im currently running.600mg sus a week like I said 1st run with prop. Ill try it again on a later date just not very soon...lol and thanx for all the insight bro good to know people are here to help!
RustyhookerWhen i switch from longs to shorts i hit the b/c//zinc fast. It does that to me as well. Guessing that test prop is irritating and causes pip that your body sees the new irritant as a threat. Rsise in temp is first line of defence.. Just guessing here but it's always been like you described to me as well.
thanks for the input man, its been rough. i'm hoping that by my second rotation of injection spots the pip will subside as well as the fever
Different carrier oils used. Sounds like you are allergic to certain ones.
The one that I'm using now is cotton seed oil. The previous one was EO. So you're saying I could be allergic to CSO?
It's a possibility.