Tbol/Test E/Var. Seams logical
Well it seams logical in theory for achieving my first cycle goals. The goal is to increase as much mass as possible while staying moderately lean. I'm not going to eat 4000+ calories and gain 30/40lbs. After PCT I would be very happy with 10/15lbs. Of lean muscle.
Stats:
First cycle 32yr old 5'8" 180lbs 13/14% (cutting down slowly) training 4ish years. Never miss the gym up at 5am 6 days a week lifting like there is no tomorrow.
The anticipation of starting is killing me but I'm going to stick to my plan and finish cutting my BF down. Being a few months away I think I've done more research the past few months than in the previous year lol.
Ok I got side tracked back to the title of the post!
Side note: I'm about to start an HGH cycle ordered 6/mo supply just to make sure it agrees with me. If it does ill be on for life.
Cycle:
1-12 test e 500/wk (Sunday 250 - Thursday 250)
1-5 TBol 50mg ED (25mg 5am- 25mg 2pm)
8-14 Anavar 60 ED ( 20 5am 20 10am 20 2pm)
13-14 test e 300/wk (Sunday 150 - Thursday 150)
1-14 .5 EOD adjust as needed. Not worried about libido
5-16 HGC 500iu week pinned same as test e
17-20 pct clomid/novola 100/100/50/50 - 50/50/25/25
Liv52 whole cycle plus looking into other liver supports.
I'm dead set on TBol 1-5 maybe 1-6 I know I'm going to get bashed for it, ive done the research best I can and am prepared to gut it out if sides arise. The sides would to be a 9 on a 10 scale for me to puss out. I doubt id be the first to kickstart a test e cycle against advice ;)
Note: I decided on TBol over DBol for many reasons. To many to list. For my goals and my body I believe TBol is the correct choice. I doubt ill ever run DBol.
The 7/wk anavar and extra 2 weeks of reduced test e im not dead set on. I chose the 2 extra weeks of reduced test to suplement the anavar and my T levels.
This is just a cycle that I am wondering
WHAT IF? More or less a discussion cuz im going stir crazy waiting to get going!
Cheers bro's !!!
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Too much for first cycle. 3 compounds, how will you know how you're reacting to each of them? If things go wrong, you'll have no idea what's causing it. This is why we add 1 compound at a time.
juice12345678Call me crazy but I don't have that much of a problem with this....
The use of ai's / hcg and pct is there....
It's not uncommon to use two Orals in a cycle....kicker and finisher
I'd do tbol 4 weeks and Anavar for 6 weeks to give enough time off between....
Yes you're supposed to do 500 mg of test e only but you're an adult....30's not 22 being a moron not listening to his body....
You will however (like said below) not know what is doing what....
Like I know enough about myself that Anavar gives me BP problems but Dbol doesn't....
On the flip side....Tbol and Anavar aren't the big boys that are going to hurt you too bad either....
Get your bloods done before and possibly mid and absolutely a month after pct....
Good luck
Yes I am going to get lab work done. Wife's job will make that easy.
If and when you get those labs, you should run one compound at a time to ensure you know how that drug reacts on your body. Very simple. Be safe. Be smart. Respect the game, bro.
BP will be an issue for you with that combo and you won't have any clue what the cause is for your side effects.
Two 17aa's is a bad idea in and of itself. The chemical structure wreaks havoc on the liver, as the liver is charged with the task of degrading this chemical structure to aide in excretion. The toxic effect is dose dependent, meaning the higher the dose, the greater the toxicity.
But the issue doesn't lie there completely. This is your first cycle... This is the equivalent of taking a toddler thats never seen the wayer to a pool an tossing his ass in the deep end and walking off. He won't know what the fuck is going on and will be lucky to figure out how to make it to the side without issues. Each aas compound has its own individual set of side effects, and you/every beginner needs to learn how your individual bodies respond to each individual compound. When you learn one, you can move on to the next.
That's a good thing bc you can kiss it good by with this cycle. Not to mention the emotional roller coaster and the bitch tits. Just be sure to post your pics of those moobs when they pop up. I've always been a sucker for a pair of tits. Lmao.
Giving ya a hard time... Real talk bro, I understand the mindset and commend you for taking the time to crash course the compounds for benefits. A lot of people don't even take it that far. But there's more to it than just this brother. You should really consider scratching this and letting some of us instill a bit more wisdom and knowledge in you that will help you learn how to build and execute successful/productive cycles.
Good post, well put, with a very good analogy.
If this is your first cycle, you know what everybody is going to say. Are you planning on getting pre-cycle labs, though?
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This will be my first cycle. Running your gear!
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