posted Fri, 08/03/2012 - 17:59
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npp and test prop kickstart
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I've looked all around and cant find much on this. I am just thinking about my next cycle and was thinking just a simple 500mg test e/250mg/ deca 14wk cyclce. Maybe bump to 600/300? still thinking about it. But I want to kickstart w/ test prop100mg eod wk 1-4 and was wondering if I could kickstart the deca w/ 50mg npp eod wk 1-4 as well. I havent seen any posts talking about this and was curious if there was some problem w/ this? All input is appreciated.
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Thanks everyone. Fast48, the link you posted answered all my ques. thanku. Here is what I am looking at
test prop 100mg eod wk 1-4, 14-16
npp 60mg eod wk 1-5
test e 600mg wk`1-14
deca 400mg wk 1-12
tbol 50mg ed wk 11-16
caber .25 e3d if sides present themselves bump to .5 e3d
adex .5 eod
pct begins on 3rd day after last prop pin
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
This is a bulker I have already started a new 5000cal diet... Damn it's a lot of food. I spent $170 at grocery store I was eating 3,500cal leanin out... I've had enought of that. I think I looked skinny at 5'10 190lb 7%bf... I need at least another 15lbs of muscle. Leaned out at 205 I think I may be content? Doubt it, but it is my goal.
input is appreciated.
tread-mBOOM!
This has been discussed in a few threads in different ways. I was going to do the same thing but opted for the prop/npp 10 weeker. First run with short cycle and want to see how I react to it. The prop/npp kicker was talked about in pm with a few people for advice. It will start cycle in first week.
Here is a link with a cycle perfectly laid out. This was what I was going to do. Scroll down to the cycle Tread layed out.Great cycle. I personally love Deca. I'm just going to see how the NPP run goes for now.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/planning-ahead-ma...
now my question is does this expand to all compounds? can tren a kickstart tren e? will bold ace kickstart eq?
Anonstands to reason the answer is yes, although not always feasible as I understand tren a and tren often have different sides for folks...
one of the purposes of running short esters is to run a shorter cycle, additionally, you can make quick adjustments and often reduce side effects to maximize gains.
and with the case of tren, pull out quick if the sides are too much.
Anonin all actuality I don't see why not and even debated doing something similar myself for my current cycle minus the long ester test of course.. I decided against the long ester deca in favor of the NPP mostly because I would still be pinning every other day or every third day and so running deca would have been a moot point for pinning issues. I also wasn't sure how long I would be running the cycle and wanted to adjust on the fly.
Plus you can quick adjust as body needs or switch as well. Many pins but better control.
Anonexactly !
After this cycle i think I'll be sticking to short runs. I'm not at all huge but feel good when i'm cut at 200.
In forums....anabolic cycles or steroids is article by Nitti where this is actually discussed by the gurus
Anonpost the link if you will thanks ;-) I saw one that may fit the bill but not sure if it is the one you are referring to
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/4th-cycle-advise-...
prop and npp kicker
The other one seems that i cant find but all the guys I'd trust were chatting options. The above link though has everything fairly lined out for simple cycle.
Finding caber is hard lately....so research is key.
AnonI'm glad I m not a man.. I don't have to worry about that.
Bonus for the ladies to not have to worry. I've just done cycles where estro and food is the only big worries. The 19's just seem to make it complex. Lol.
AnonI get to worry about other things.. I prefer the shorter esters but will run the longer ones
Ya that's true. For every plus there can be drawbacks. I got away from the short Esters for a long time. The old vet Winny worked great but the every morning pip wore me out. Since learning more right here on eroid...my prop hasn't been bad at all. It's
edit...brb
not sure about dosages but npp can def be used to kick start deca.
I dont know about dosage either. I was just thinkin 1/2 of prop. I know for me when the deca kicked last time I took it my weenie would only get 3/4 hard. I was takin 750 test and 500 deca. I added some prop for acouple weeks and backed the deca off and I was fine
that sounds like a high ratio. i know 1:2 us recommended. but ppl take it higher.