+ 1 I need some advice on my npp cycle
I have been running test e at 500mgs,npp at 375mgs,test prop 150mgs a wk i should mention that the prop is getting dropped this week until I taper off at the end, 60mgs tbol a day and 50mgs Proviron I started taking 12.5mgs of aromasin on mon and fri my 2 test pin days. I'm also taking. 5mg of caber once a week. I take my blood test this week but honestly im feeling great the gear is good my arm is holding up great. Im thinking about upping my test dose to 750mgs a wk and upping my npp dose to 500mgs a wk. Is this a good idea or am I just feeling good and thinking crazy. My workouts have been great and my gains are really coming on well. I always preach less is more but if things are going this good do I take advantage of it and see if upping the doses helps more or just stay where im at. I might up the doses and realize that I made a mistake and cut them back anyways. Since im getting my blood work next week and if the numbers come back in the right spots I might just have to take advantage of things going so good and raise my doses.
What does everyone think stay with my original plan or make the changes and get everything I can out of it.
Thanks for the feedback fellas you guys no its appreciated.
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RustyhookerI ran 750 sust and 300npp. Liked the gains, ate big calories. Upcoming cycle will be 350npp with prop at 75ed.
Kapsize has ya below. If its working....roll with it. If you switch orals at least half life is super short. Easy to modify
bigmurphYeah kaps right on your going to have a great cycle with sust and npp. Your going to put on alot of size with that combo brother
Are you going to include a prolactin test with your bloodwork? Why did you start the caber without any proof that you needed it?
bigmurphYes my blood work is coming in a wk and a half. I started the caber because prolactin has no help in building muscle. Unlike estro that you need to build muscle prolactin helps you in no way so i started my caber at .5 2x a wk and I haven't had any problems. I also wanted to keep my dick working which was also one of the reasons why I wanted to keep my # at the right levels so I wouldn't have a problem with that and so far so good.
You might want to do a little more research on prolactin dude. Low prolactin can be just as bad for sexual health. By starting the caber right away you missed an opportunity to see if you actually need it. Please tell me that you've done the research on how to properly titrate off the caber. Da's aren't harmless drugs, they have some very serious side effects and I'm not talking about a little bit of nausea.
bigmurphYes brother its much appreciated i know that caber isn't something to just fuck with it can cause serious heart conditions and much more. Not that it matters to what were talking about but I haven't felt the sides that I have read about. I did read a post some time back about not starting caber or to start it. The reason I decided to start it we already discussed but in that post he was able to hold out on the caber I will see my # very soon hopefully I made the right choice. I do feel like I have meaning listing to my body i feel good and everything is working right. I will keep you updated when I post bloods to show were im at
Yo murph! What up? ...bro, if your feeling great and seeing results then keep it at the dose it is. No need to up it if it working well. I'd give at at least a couple weeks past your taper. IMO if you are considering upping the dose, I wouldn't do it for more than 50% of the time you plan to run it. Just don't up it right away. See what it really does for you at that dose. Then past mid way in your cycle if results are really slowing then experiment and up it to see what it can do at a higher dose. Just be safe. We've talked, u know you got everything else in place.
bigmurphActually im thinking about lowering the dose to 300mgs a wk because at 375 I've been getting such good results and since its a nor19 and im worried about recovery I want to keep it as low as I can. I also am about to drop the tbol I switched from geneza to balkan and im just not getting out of it what I want and I just don't think its a good oral for me. I have some winny and adrol and was thinking maybe finish with the winny would be a better choice but then again maybe just try to switch to drol for the next 2wks and call it quites with the orals.
Will see the winny I think would fit my goals better.
Im going to shoot you a pm because another member was asking about blast and cruise i believe that you do that and im trying to put him in touch with the right person.
definitely then. ive ran higher doses and lower and really, as you know, diet really makes it or breaks it regardless of dose. so just use as much as needed. good call.
you wont get any support on the winny from me man lol. winstrol imo is just a bottom shelf, outdated, useless drug. anavar, masteron, and/or tren can do anything winstrol can do and better imo. only thing winny brings distinct to the table is dry joints, frail feeling, and sore bones and joints. how long your run the tbol for again? two orals in one cycle might not be even necessary. you probably dont need it.
the best oral to "finish" a cycle with if you are coming off and pcting is anavar (oxandrolone) imo. reason being it keeps exerting its fat burning effects for months after the intake of the drug is ceased, so it can help with unwanted fat gain during pct. and in young males it was shown to cause a rebound burst of testosterone upon cessation. studies are on ncbi, dont have links atm. good attribute to have when transitioning into pct. plus, its just plain better than winny ;) imo at least
bigmurphThen I will definitely skip the winny I have some var so I guess I will go with that
I ran geneza first 60mgs split 2x a day for 3wks im switching to balkan now just took my first dose this mourn if I see an improvement i will keep running it and skip the var also but I feel like tbol so far is nothing like i thought it would be. We will see i will run the balkan for a week before I drop it.
Rustyhookercant keep posting brands in forum bro.
bigmurphYou're a 100% right i don't know why I did something so stupid wasn't thinking hit me with the neg its deserved
I shouldn't be doing things like that after all this time.
RustyhookerNo negs bro. Enjoy your day!
bigmurph, i'm starting my first TestCyp/NPP cycle for 10wks. 400NPP/wk and 400 or 500TestCyp/wk. Thought I'd reach out to you on your results. I've heard so many comments about joint relief I'm starting to wonder if I'm only going to see joint benefits. I was actually hoping to gain 15-20 pounds of lean, and retainable tissue. What type of 'gains' did you experience, if any, during your recent NPP cycle? Thnx bro.
bigmurphIm in wk 4 and im actually loving npp. I cut down to 202 before my first pin im at 214 right now but its a mix of water, muscle and fat. I have seen my true bf slim down im very happy with it im running at 375 -400 2 different brands dosed different but at that level its doing exactly what I expected. Im definitely seeing more than just joint help.
I wouldn't change anything Murph. Why fix something that's not broken. You are still early in cycle and coming after a longer break and injury. You said it's working great so just ride it. It is also your first nandrolone cycle. See how recovery will be after the cycle. You can tweak other aspects likes diet and training, but I would leave the cycle as it is if you say it is working great. Glad everything is fine with your biceps. Keep killing it bro
bigmurphYou right brother im going to stick with it im loving npp
Hey fella. I think you've kinda answered your own question and the guys below have you covered. It's all working week for you, gains are coming, no issues with sides, your feeling good and enjoying your cycle. Nothing there needs fixing so keep it as it is. See out the cycle and then think about a higher dose next time. And remember this cycle is all about recovering from your injury. You don't want to end up having to trouble shoot a bunch of issues. Focus on what is important here. Good luck mate.
I say keep it where it's at, you say the gear is quality, my first npp cycle I ran 600mgs test e with 100mg npp eod so 350ew with 100mg eod prop kicker for about the first 3 weeks. I later found out that the npp was only about 60% pure, although those tests back then were questionable. Anyways on those doses I made great gains. Joints felt awesome, I was just coming off a shoulder injury and the npp helped tremdously. Next time around run it at 750 and 500, that seems to be my sweet spot, I've ran that cycle many many times and the gains always come. But I don't think it would have benefited me my first time around. Introducing a new chemical like nandrolone is gonna shock the body enough. 375 vs 500 on a first cycle of it I really don't think will make much difference. Less sides with the lower dose also, but nandrolone is extremely mild Anyways in terms of sides while on. It's the shutdown that's a bitch.
Rustyhooker5mg of caber????? Might clarify.
bigmurphDefinitely a typo .5mg
RustyhookerCool. Ive enjoyed npp in 2 cycles so far.
bigmurphYeah so far I've been really happy with the way the npp makes me feel. Its a great compound.
Like true said, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
bigmurphI completely agree but its hard knowing that I could add more and be good but im going to stick with it like you said it ain't broken.
Atleast its working great and not going haywire
This is always a tough one murph. When to increase dosage and or add compounds???
I think if your getting good results, well, if it ain't broke.......
bigmurphI completely agree but its hard knowing that I could add more and be good but im going to stick with it like you said it ain't broken.
Atleast its working great and not going haywire
It's like a kid in a candy store sometimes. We want everything. But, as an adult we have to be wise enough to know when to say when. Good for you brother for being sensible. Plus, you don't want to get to carried away with that bicep. Glad it's healing up though.
bigmurphI appreciate that brother but I also listen to the advise other members give me unlike some. I truly appreciate you guys chiming in and setting me straight before im shooting a gram lol
Thanks brother