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Alright guys I have been reading the stickies all over this forum for the past week non-stop so now I just kind of want to see what I know, and I would appreciate if you guys could correct me on any info I might have wrong here.

Stats:
Weight - 210
Height - 6'0
Bf - 20%?(Still working on getting this figured out)

Diet:
I am far from having this worked out yet. I know I will probably be trying to stick around 3000 calories because I am looking to make nice gains but I want to lower my body fat, I am not looking to put on as much mass as possible.

Workout:
Day 1 - Chest, Abs, 30 mins of light cardio
Day 2 - Back, Shoulders, 30 mins of light cardio
Day 3 - Intense Cardio
Day 4 - Legs, Abs, 30 mins of light cardio
Day 5 - Arms, 30 mins of light cardio
Day 6 - Intense Cardio
Day 7 - off

Cycle:
Pretty basic cycle. It's just basically a generic Test E cycle. I really like it so I sticking with it.
Test E - Weeks 1-10 - 500mg/week
Nolvadex - Weeks 1-15 20mg/day
Clomid - Weeks 12-15
300mg Day 1
100mg Day 2-11
50mg Day 12-21
I also am going to keep some Arimidex on hand just in case since I am not sure if I am going to have issues with gyno or not.

After all of this I plan of going natty for at least a year(probably longer). I will probably be wanting to cut any excess body fat I have left on my body. I will be trying to cut while also maintaining as much as my gains as possible.

So guys I am sure I have things in here that need to be critiqued, please feel free to criticize anything here as much as possible. I am really still just researching as much as possible. Ask me questions, or do whatever, I really want to know my stuff before I even consider to try a cycle.

hypnoso's picture

The Nolva should be on deck in case of Gyno the Arimidex is for AI. I am new to this also but just keep reading bro lots of good info all over. Get that diet dialed in and the Body fat % will drop. Cardio and shorter rest periods between sets. I've been lifting for over 10 years and am currently running my first cycle. Good luck bro.

s08722k's picture

I agree with the calorie deficiency high protein diet for cutting. As for the cycle itself I'd change out the nolvadex for adex at .25 eod from day one to last day of pinning and pct would be: Clomid @ 4 weeks 100/100/50/50 and novla @ 40/40/20/20 both starting 2 weeks after last pin. How old are you?

cry_havoc's picture

Wow you have a good frame but I would do a lot of research about your diet first. I mean more than just what is clean eating. More like manipulating your diet for an end result. Calorie deficit and strong high impact cardio are fastest way to cut fat. But you need the protein to keep the muscle that you have. It would actually be easier to bring BF down naturally with good diet and lifting/cardio routine now then to put on more mass at your age and bf, then start putting lean mass on from 8-10% naturally. It really boils down to understand how your body reacts to nutrients and how you manipulate it. I would suggest some simple math here. Your basal metabolic rate is around 1800 calories a day (this is how many calories it takes you just to operate daily without exercise). It takes -3000 calories burn off to burn 1 lb of fat. If you have a daily intake of 3000 - 1800 = +1200 calories. Now consider how much time you have to spend in the gym and how much high impact cardio you can handle and you would need to burn about 1700 calories a day to burn 1 lb fat a week. So again we/you have intake of 3000-1800-1200-500=-500 a day. The -500 a day is where you would need to be times 6 days to accomplish a burn off of -3000 calories just to burn one pound of fat. Thats on a high protein low carb diet plan. Now throw in test e in the mix and watch water and fat build up if your diet is not dialed in right. Then come off and get frustrated because you actually unknowingly put on a nice layer of subcutaneous fat on and now have to work four times as much just to get cut to the point that you want to stop taking gear. My point is I think you have the cart before the horse bud! Please reconsider your program and learn what your body can do naturally with a solid diet and fitness regiment.

Sway0025's picture

Thanks for the answers guys. Yea I figured I should probably lower my body fat before I went on a cycle. I just hate working so hard in the gym for nothing. I lift weights so hard. I was doing my biceps today and realized I was working so hard but since I am in a caloric deficit I am not growing at all. I really hate cutting so much. The only reason I even want to cycle is so I can gain muscle while losing fat and not be in the gym lifting so hard for almost nothing.

levelup's picture

run a keto diet with cardio in the am first thing then weights in pm, that last bit of fat will drop off....dont get yourself down either brotha! you are not lifting for nothing, you are making progress whether you see it or not. try mixing up your routine if you have stalled, supersets, 5 x 5 etc

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riproll4's picture

Good to see you back out n about my friend.

rt061309's picture

I would recommend waiting a few more years before jumping on gear as well. Take advantage of your natural potential my friend! Get that diet worked out and lower that body fat percentage down to about 12%. Consistency is key here.

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boom88's picture

I stopped reading your post once I got to you diet section. 20% body fat is a bit high to start a cycle. You need to do a lot of research and get your diet in check before you even begin to think of doing a cycle. My advice is research dieting for Fat loss. Get you diet in check, eat healthy, up your cardio. Gear will do you no good if you or diet is not in check. Loose some BF then do research about running a cycle but at this point honestly you are not ready.

rt061309's picture

More research my friend. Why would you take nolva during your cycle?? Nolva is used with Clomid in PCT only. Do some research on proper PCT protocols. Also run test e for 12 weeks.

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