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Changing test esters during long cycles

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I've read on other boards that some people suggest changing test esters during long cycles to help with saturation. For instance if your doing a 16 week cycle with test and equipoise, they would suggest running eq from weeks 1-16 and test e first 8 weeks and then switch to prop or sust for the next 8. Has anyone tried this or think it works?

TheFlash85's picture

Meh

njs's picture

switching from long ester to another long will not change bro. i had to change severall times because my testo was not available so i switched often between e and c.

i only know one situation where changing is a benefit.

if you do long cycles such as 6 month or even longer and decide to finish the cycle it would make sense changing to short ester. like rickrock said for tapering reasons only.

robxl12321's picture

Yeah no such thing as a 6 month cycle at that point it's not a cycle no more i don't even know what that's called aside from dumb

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njs's picture

for you it is dumb. correct. in relation to hobby bodybuilding you are 100% right. but there are people like me fighting and doing competition as a profesional bodybuilder. thats not my main job but important for the lifestyle i choosed. i never recomend that long cycles to people that only do hobby bodybuilding. young teens ask me excited how they can be like me... i always tell them to think twice and that nothing is like it seems to be! it does not matter for me if a team is filming that conversations or not. but if you are a pro, you earn some money with bb. you feed your family by doing that because a serious pro cant work fulltime like someone else. so you need to win competitions, trophy money and you need sponsors.

i would like to tell you one more thing. if you stop taking aas/hgh etc as a pro for a longer time, you cant catchup anymore. you will be out for the next 2 shows. thats physics. simple biological nature. you only can bridge your cycles but only in competition free times. you must calculate your preparation time too, bulking or cutting it doesnt matter. so it is not often that pro's pause or bridge.

that was what i have ment when i said tapering and to be 6 month or longer on a cycle. 100% no recomendation. as a hobby sportsmen stay wide away bro. so dont be too fast with your conviction gentleman. now you can diferantiate hopefully my words.

regards

robxl12321's picture

All of that sounded like bs bro. No offense but you come on here saying things like you're a pro or at least that what I'm picking up on with no proof and false information. The problem with saying things like "running a 6 month cycle" on this site even if you're not recommending it is newbie kids and younger guys take that kind of shit into consideration and 90 percent of the time roll with it. I know because I did it around 19 years old and destroyed my natural system. As experienced users we all need to choose out words carefully because the younger generation may be looking up to us...

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njs's picture

sure, it is not good for hobby use.
i just told that tapering makes sense for these people who stay that long. not a recomend mate.

RickRock1086's picture

I feel like you talking about tapering at the end of the cycle? Last 4 weeks of cycle switch to short ester to supposedly minimize the shutdown & make the recovery easier? If that’s not the case, then I don’t see the point of such thing.

drock18's picture

no these other guys on other boards were saying if you do a 24 week cycle, switch test esters every 8 weeks to avoid saturation..like start with Test E, then Prop, then Sust. It's probably just bro science. Bostin Loyd is a promoter of this.

robxl12321's picture

Yeah 24 weeks on first of all is in advisable you'll fry your system. Second bostin is an idiot I wouldn't do anything that guy promotes. Put together a cycle with 1 Ester testosterone and use it for 10 to 12 weeks come off and do pct. Don't short circuit your system for nothing man

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robxl12321's picture

Sounds pointless to me. I mean I've done cyp cycles then did a 4 week prop taper at the end or reversed and did a prop Kickstart in the beginning like 100 MG eod of prop while pinning the cyp on top of it to utilize the earlier weeks until the cyp hit peak levels. Switching mid cycle to a different Ester sounds like some broscience shit honestly

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GrowMore's picture

The funny thing about this game is it pretty much is always person dependant. Loads of lads back in the day ran 6 weeks on high dosages and 6 weeks off. Which sounds bonkers because you barely reach peak levels before you completely stop everything then 6 weeks later start up again. Thing was a lot of these blokes were and still are MASSIVE! I know a load who runs stacks Rich piana (may he rest in peace) would shake his head at and the lad doesn't look like he's lifted in his life!

GrowMore's picture

Defiantly. I won't be running gear like that any time soon.

giardap's picture

Pin, Get strong, Bloat, Get fat..... repeat!

Cummin apart's picture

I end my cycle with prop while the longer ester test e clears out of my system,
That way you only have to wait minimal time before starting PCT

IrishWOLFhound's picture

Personally I prefer to keep it simple , use the same esters throughout my cycles , I couldn't be bothered switching from test e to prop and so on .

chunkypbnj's picture

I've switch from enan to cyp when a bottle broke and noticed nothing different.

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