posted Sun, 12/31/2017 - 03:28
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1st test e cycle
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Hi,
So i have decided to run a test e cycle as below
week 1-10 test e 300mg e5d's
Anastrazole 0.5mg eod
pct 4 weeks
clomid 50mg/day
nolvadex 20mg/day
Question's are:
how soon before you start to feel effects of test e?
is it enough test to see reasonable gains( im hoping for 4-6kg in lean-ish gains) if diet and training are on spot?
should i add proviron? or wait until second or third cycle?
thanks
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Id have guesstimated you were about 14-15% by your pic. Always hard to guess... depending on time of day (water retention), did you pump up etc. etc. But with top 4 abs visible and biceps shape you do look fairly lean.
As for cycling now... well; having not yet achieved any real mass for a base... it suggests you dont know how to eat yet... for mass that is. So if the ABCs of this gig are missing, well then... its a disaster waiting to happen.... or maybe not... who knows. Personally Id want to master the basics first, get to 95-100 kgs then see what you can do.
Learn to eat, learn to lift beyond cookie cutter workouts... learn about how to manage your health etc.
If you are 5' 11" and small framed and boned, you are doomed. 6 inch wrists means you are extremely limited to how much muscle mass you can pack on. Even with steroids and the best coach your genetics will fuck you over. If I were you take it slow and do a lot of research, you may not want to do aas just to get very little gains and if you are 180 at your height and claimed bf, you are at your genetic potential or very close to it. You will have to train, eat, and rest twice as much as someone similiar to maintain at the potential level. Maybe post a pic with your face blurrwd iut so we can see what you are working with.
ok, but be nice
RustyhookerSINCE NOONE ASKED THE REAL QUESTION....STATS...GOALS...PRIORS. Age: 43....Height: 5'11"....Weight: 81kg....BF:
Thats fairly small in terms of mass to start a cycle bro. Especially with no body fat posted. Deduct the average bodyfat and youre like 155 pounds.
Does that seem a good idea?
OK...I'm 180lbs by my math and pretty lean and active . I don't know for sure what my body fat is but I would put a guess at 8-10%. I'm quiet small boned ,wrists are like 6inches at the bone.
Remember Frank Zane he was barely 190 off season and he must have been on steroids ;), not trying to compare myself to a great like him.. Just saying, you dont have to be 200lbs plus before you can take steroids, its all about genetic limits, right?
Anyway, thankyou for your feedback.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.
RustyhookerBullcrap. Post pix.
not sure how, but i managed to put one up as profile.
from yesterday.
RustyhookerYessir. 20%. Whats your goal? Much can be achieved with gym and food modifications. And youre not pushing yourself into a losing position.
20%?? Really? Damn.
Goal is to get bigger but stay fit as I hate being a skinny b@#tard
I can put on weight but struggle to maintain
Maybe I should be more patient
RustyhookerIm at 20 as well. The battle is real. Food is the weapon needed to change as needed.
Damn rusty! You too? I’m close to 20% also
RustyhookerCleaned up foods and raising cardio post workout. Will continue til solid 200. Being short has the perk of looking large when lean. Drawback is just add couple pounds fat and its midget wrassler look. Lol
10-4 lol midget wrestler! Lol
I’m going to start more cardio in another month or so
RustyhookerHigh five!!
any suggestions? currently im consuming approx 150g fat(good fats, nuts oils) 200g protein 400g carbs.
increase protein and decrease carbs?
MyFitnessPal is an awesome app to use to track everything
Here is what to do.
Track everything you eat all day long, even if its a snack or a handful of peanuts, by the end of the day you will know what you had, if you are consuming what you say then you have a tapeworm.
Write everything down and I bet you will be shocked to see its not as much as you think.
RustyhookerMakwa and medex and catalyst all have very descript forums on foods. Use magnifying glass up top and youll find em.
Click on their avatar.... forums. You can read anyones forums that way too.
Me.... i up my cardio and change my carbs. And by cardio i mean Anerobic cardio. Or a mix of aerobic and anerobic. There's a math equation for figuring your heart rate for each but all the gym equiptment has it already installed. My age/weight its 110bpm for fat burn.
thankyou
RustyhookerHappy new year!
Jarhead and irishmack have solid advice too.
Yes, all good advice, thanks guys.
My fitness pal, perfect.I think this will help me with getting enough calories.
Rustyhooker, I was reading one of your posts about volume training..I thought I already trained hard .. But that was an eye opener.
Thanks again guys, hopefully see yous in the diet and training forums
RustyhookerGood luck! And its nice to see an op participating in a thread. +2
first of all do a full bloodwork!
Just to emphasize what basskiller said below. Make sure you get your bloodwork done. I was having issues dialing my AI because the hi and low estro symptoms can be very similar.
I pin test e every 84hrs. That works very well to stay stable. I think most people start at 500mg per week so thats 2-250mg pins, say Tue 6pm then again Sat 6am. Also make sure you have everything you need on hand. I saw you put up a pic of d bol and Nolva. It will certainly suck if you find your source has an issue and you dont have an AI ready. That said I had Aromasin and Arimidex on hand because I did not know how I would react. In my case it worked out good. Anyway good luck. Keep us posted
Thanks for reply,
i did a short dbol cycle with nolvadex used during and for pct.
Funny enough i have everything on hand exept for the test ;), but i won't be starting for another 5 weeks anyway.
thanks again
basskiller89Well hello brother
Based on your stats I can give you some advice. I believe that for your first cycle 300mg test e e7d is more suitable. Running more gear than that on your first cycle is redundant. I would also consider bumping your cycle to 12 weeks versus 10 pending blood work and your overall sense of well being during this cycle. I feel that you will experience better gains and I also recommend 12 weeks as a first cycle. I encourage you to get blood work done pre cycle and 6 weeks into your cycle. You will also need to obtain blood work after your PCT to ensure you have re reached normal physiological levels. Normally blood work will determine how much of an AI is necessary based on your E levels. However, some guys like myself are very prone to gyno and need to run an AI from week 1. If you run .5mg Anastrozole eod you are unlikely to run into any gyno related, as well as water retention issues. Blood work week 6 will confirm your protocols and you can make adjustments from there if needed
Test begins working immediately. You should notice libido related effects within a few days to the first week. As your blood levels begin to increase every week you will have more pronounced effects. Your pumps will get better and better every week. Your strength will also continue to raise every week
It is more than enough for you to notice non stop gains for 10-12 weeks assuming your diet and training are on point
You are most likely going to want to incorporate HCG into your PCT. A good range would be 5000iu - 10000iu split up over the first week or two. I would consider bumping Nolvadex to 40mg ED for the first two weeks and then dropping down to 20mg ED for the following 2 weeks
It is recommended you only run one compound for your first cycle so you can see how your body reacts to a single compound. Proviron is not going to do anything that 300mg of test e will not do. Less is more in a case like this
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. Your prior forum posts point to the direction of you have no idea what you're doing. I believe that you will benefit from the above advice and should you chose to run a cycle I would prefer you do it as safely as possible. Good luck to you brother
RustyhookerSO YOURE THINKING THAT 5-11 @ 155 POUNDS IS A GOOD WEIGHT FOR STEROIDS? I SHIT BIGGER THAN THAT.
basskiller89No, you're right brother
Sorry I missed that
NovemberReally good reply man.
Even I got some good info out of it.
Keep up good work and happy new year
RustyhookerHope you fix your diet first bro
Age: 27
Height: 182
Weight: 85
BF: ~18
NovemberWorking hard in that.
Posted some pics of my new meal preps I'm doing now on.
And the biggest struggle actually for me is the food intake. Not the workouts. Or anything. It's the food.
Been forcing myself. At the moment gaining something slowly. But not as much I would like. Not as much I expected.
RustyhookerMight be easier to cut down to your base first or youre fighting 2 battles of added mass plus fat loss. Its not easy fighting 2. Cutting itself can be a chore.
basskiller89Thank you brother
Happy new year to you as well
I have learned alot in the last 3-4months
thanks for your reply