posted Mon, 10/16/2017 - 23:00
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hi all
currently doing my first cycle at 43yrs after alot of research on pros and cons.
great site.
been weight training on/off since the age of 15, always struggled to gain weight(low appetite), but never felt as motivated as i do now.
taking 30mg a day of dbol split into 3 doses, felt effects after about 3days, positives =weight gain, increased power, improved appetite and sleeping like a baby.
sides=have slightly sensitive nipples and heartburn.
although its my first time using dbol, i feel its working thats for sure, on day 9 now, will continue for another 33 days then reduce to 10mg for week 7 then pct with tamoxifen
taking milk thistle for liver support.
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thanks for opinions guys and no disrespect meant to any of you.
I will keep updated on here each week.
I will start a little poll in anabolic steroid forum and see what experiences we get from people who have run dbol alone, hopefully mine will be one of the +++'s
You’re wasting your time dude.... not one experienced person here will advise your dbol only cycle & especially as a first cycle to have anything but test.....
backonroidsAnd for the record I never used to be able to eat or that excuse people use "hard gainer " no appetite and all that ... You train yourself to eat , wake up earlier to have extra meals , do whatever it takes drink plenty of water between meals to help stretch your stomach .. I am naturally bones that's it . And steroids didn't get me any of my size .: FOOD. Did .. yes AAS gave me a boost and helped with utilising the nutrition but either way I wouldn't have gained if I wasn't eating good quality foods and lots of it .
I currently see myself as very small next to most here but I'm 5ft 6 and quiet a few KG heavier than you .. do your lack of knowledge is concerning ..Research
ive actually gained 8kg(naturally) through force feeding since dec '16 became stale with little to no gains since july , so like yourself ive decided to give myself a boost.
i realise alot of people dont agree with oral only cycles but gains of 5lb after pct on a 6 week cycle would be equal to a 10lb gain on test for 12 weeks
thanks for all the feed back, respect
backonroidsCongrats on the gains - 5lbs was the best possible scenario and i am not recommending you do the cycle incase that's what you think . Lol
But your not going to listen so I am done lol good luck be safe , hope the milk thistle works out for you
Really shouldn't be taking an oral longer than 6 weeks but many say 4-weeks is more appropriate.
Tudca and milk thistle is best for liver protection bro
running 6 weeks ...week 7 is a taper down of 10mg ed just to prevent shock to the system more than anything
Still a horrible idea brother
Unless you’re running a dbol only cycle & then it’s zero weeks lol
That is correct! Test first and only test!
After all that research, you should have concluded that the only first cycle option is TEST brother!!! Nothing more.... many many reasons why, but I’d definitely stop your so called cycle & research first cycles here... here’s a place to start buddy
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle...
appreciate the feedback
We both understand what your comment means. You came here wanting to hear someone co-sign this for you rather than actually get help. Good luck my friend
we do?? not looking for a co-sign or help, at least not yet(we all know the risks,oral or injectable,anything can go wrong), i was just introducing myself and sharing my "so called" cycle, which includes dbol,pct and time off following drugs.
backonroidsYour going to need more than milkthistle, you need to read the rules also and if you've researched why would you be running a dbol only cycle ? What's for desert ? (PCT)
Read the rules...did it say no dbol only I must have missed it??
Yes milk thistle, I'm a pretty healthy guy, would you suggest something else?
Desert as you call it will be 3 weeks pct
Reason for running this cycle is I would rather run a 9/10 week cycle than do test for 15/16 to see how my body reacts
Thanks for your reply
backonroidsNope ..but it says no lab mentions in open forums ...
What ever you gain you will piss away once you stop that's the reality of it. I'm not spoon feeding you the answers research some more even for liver supplementation as milk thistle isn't protecting fuck all.
What's your PCT looking like ?
What AI you running
I am not being a dick but if you have researched you wouldn't be on this cycle , and if you where you would have been better prepared . I am defiantly no stranger to dbol .
My bad, thanks for the heads up.
Not asking to be spoon fed... I don't intend to take dbol year round...short cycle then detox.
So you have run dbol alone? What was your experience?
I have tamoxifen as an ai..if and when needed, if not needed I will not use it during cycle, pct will be 100mg tamoxifen 24HRS after last dbol, followed by 40mg ed for 6 days then 20mg ed for 14 days
I know you're not being a dick..we all have opinions
backonroidsYes I've ran dbol by alone when I was very young and stupid . My experience is I blew up like a balloon for 4 weeks stoped did pct and probably only kept about 3lbs of the 16-18lbs I put on .. it's shuts you down mate it's not good alone .
A good first time cycle would be Test E/C 500mg per week for 10 weeks pinned bi weekly.
You may feel good now on the dbol but it will go the opposite way mate in the end you will be depressed and wondering why you put so much stress on your organs to blow up and deflate so quickly .
A AI is needed you are already getting early signs of gyno , your blood pressure will sky rocket soon aswell and the gains will be water ; you can not build quality muscle in 4-6 weeks I don't care what anyone says .
The only hope you would have on that cycle is a good AI, a fucking amazing diet watching the sodium intake and controlling the water and then maybe just maybe you may keep 5lbs after PCT. I wouldn't recommend this cycle to anyone and suggest you re evaluate you choice .
dbol is dbol with or without test so what you are saying is nobody should run dbol!! surely dbol alone @30mg ed is better than 50mg ed with test for organs and even test alone will shut you down.
Have you tried dbol alone now that you are not stupid anymore? or do you do test and just eat like shit?
Half the reason i struggle to gain the pounds is because my diet is so fucking clean, so far dbol has increased my appetite so im able to add calories each meal.
I agree quality gains cannot be made in 4-6 weeks, Its a 10 week cycle including pct, hell, it will be a 20 week cycle only 10 weeks will be without any drugs.
blood pressure is stable at the moment,not getting any bloat, weight is up 2kg but 6 pack is still visible,
drinking a ton of water,keeping salt to a minimum, dont do processed foods.
maybe i will be back here in 8 weeks saying "you told me so" or maybe the opposite.
cheers
There are other methods to stimulate your appetite than dbol. That wont mess with your test.
backonroidsWho the fuck are you to question me and assume my diet is shit ? Tell you what upload a picture mate , everyone has seen mine ... I have no reason to advice against it , I'm not scared of you being bigger than me , I'm not a big guy ... I am advising against it because it will cause more damage than good but clearly you know more about this than me ! So please disregard my advice . Upload a photo and your daily diet superman
never assumed...asked a question.... jeez.. your cortisol gonna be through the roof
backonroidsYour OP was also a question but when people with experience give you the answer you don't want you come up with more reasoning .. you won't get a cosigner here buba
damn, not looking for a cosigner.
where is my question??
You’re only taking dbol with no test? And you do realize dbol aromotizes, hence why your nips are about to be in contention with dolly partons? Ok, maybe not THAT bad... but stop what you’re doing. ASAP. Start PCT. Your research didn’t serve you well brotha- food should be your only “drug” as well at 76kg. No hate on the weight, we all start somewhere. But you obviously have a ways to go before you’re remotely ready to run aas.
I’m on TRT, so I don’t have to PCT so I’ll let the other guys handle that aspect
thanks for reply, nipple sensitivity started on a bout day 3, it has not gotten any worse,on day 9 now, in fact it happens about 20mins after a dose but subsides after an hour.
Ive read about running test and dbol vs dbol only vs test only, what are your reasonings for thinking i should stop? and not ready?
my natural weight is around 68kg when not training and eating a surplus(i know this from time off training and dieting correctly(2015-end of 2016)
Take test with dbol because d bol is suppresive so you have to add exogenous test to make up for what your balls are no longer producing. And d bol is one of the highest aromatizing compounds out there. If your nips are sensitive thats because yoir estro is going up. Makes no difference to me what you do but if you were my friend I would tell you to stop. Run a pct to clear out then rethink and research what you want to do.
Are you telling me that test doesnt suppress natural testosterone production? also isnt estrogen part of what makes dbol work..
Of course it does. When you inject exogenous test your body senses you have enough and signals your testes to stop production naturally. But it doesnt matter because you are taking test do you have more than enough in circulation . What Im saying is the dbol you are taking also supresses your natural test production and by you not adding test you now have low t.
And men need estrogen to a certain level but too much and you have issues, too little...issues. And neither is healthy for men. It is a balancing act which is why bloodwork is needed by everyone using aas.
backonroidsAll ur comments are spot on mate , but it's like talking to a brick wall ..
thanks for feedback