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Trying to get back to normal (need advice please)

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Hey, guys, I need some help

22 years old
6’3
260lbs

Before you call me out, I’ve been on cycle for about a year without pct. I know it’s stupid as fuck, but every-time I’ve tried getting off, I got terrible symptoms and ended up getting back on. I’ve been on test prop majority of the time. I’ve decided no matter how bad I feel; I’m going to come off and take an extended break before coming back on. I’ve never done blood work (dumb as shit too) and will get that done soon. My last pin was yesterday 1.5 of test prop.

I’ve been doing 1.5 of test prop EOD

I know you’re going to tell me I should have done my research, and I agree, I regret not doing it.

I’m here to ask for your help today.

What I ordered for PCT:
Nolvadex 25mg/tab x 40 tabs GenexPharma
Clomid 25 25mg/tab x 40 tabs GenexPharma
Aromasin 25mg/tab x 40 tabs GenexPharma
HCG5000 Genex (1 vial)

I ordered those based on my research for PCT

How long after my last pin should I wait before starting PCT &
Can someone please suggest a PCT plan using the items that I ordered. Thank you for your time and help.

Sam I Am's picture

22 year old guys that stay on cycle year round always get a -2 from me.

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Drock_357's picture

You pinned eod for a year?.....impressive ...smh..but stupid af..

Bill G's picture

You just gonna have to sweat it out the hard way.

And go be honest with a doctor

press1's picture

You may just be lucky enough to recover doing your own PCT with you still being pretty young - have a good search around on here as I've seen a few stories of guy's being on cycles for very long periods of time as well as cruises and they have sorted themselves out. It usually involves heavy use of HCG more than anything so I would order another 2 vials of that then copy what they have done with the Nolva & Clomid. Beware though that it is highly unlikely that you will regain your optimal testosterone production as even a few normal cycles can often distort this unfortunately.

giardap's picture

my research for PCT

Yeah right

Sam I Am's picture

Exactly

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IrishWOLFhound's picture

Endocrinologist

IrishWOLFhound's picture

That sounds too complicated lol

Heathen's picture

At your age you definitely should be not be running long cycles of Test, and honestly I say you should research into less androgenic substances, like say Primobal, as your natural Test production should still be near max receptor capacity. That being said it sadly sounds you have unknowingly crashed your natural hormone production and you are at risk now for life long problems with such if you do not research and get things right asap. Hopefully its not already too late. Some old head power lifters i know did what you're doing now and ended up needing synthetic test the past 30-40 years now as their NHP (natural hormone production) was permanently destroyed. I'm not sure I have all the answers for you, but i know this much,YOU NEED TO IMMEDIATELY RESEARCH RECEPTORS, and how they function in your body. Best analogy I heard was think of your receptors as a parking lot with 1000 parking spaces, you cannot fit 1100 car or even 1001 cars let alone 1500 cars into that lot, and at your age your NHP has (or should) have most those 1000 parking spaces currently occupied, as you age, there slowly becomes more empty spaces in the lot, typically around age 25 things peak and begin to steadily decline and by the time you hit say your 50's, the lots pretty damn empty. Now here's the part to pay strong attention to, if everyday you attempt parking 1500 cars in those 1000 parking spaces, your body which does not realize you are bio-hacking and juicing synthetic hormones and stuff, so it sends a pissed of signal to your brain, hey stop sending cars there's too fucking many already (testosterone in your case) and your body and brain then shut down production of the excessive substance, while perhaps increasing production of another substance of say estrogen to bring your levels back to normal balance. Hopefully this helps put you on the right track, you need in my opinion stop taking any and all substances other than the test which youre going to slowlly lower a slight amount each week, if you are doing 1.5, do 1.3 for 5 days, then 1.1 day 10, then .09 day 15, .07 day 20 and so on until you are at zero, spend some time (I'd say minimum 6 months) doing nothing but focusing on being natural again before you even think of cycling again. Also mentally prepare to suck and do not let it bother you, know there's no avoiding that path through hell, realize the moment is temporary and the prize to focus on is the rest of your life which you have plenty of to make gains Consider the horrible crash you will endure the penalty you deserve for fucking up so badly and let it be your lesson to study up on what you inject into your body, BEFORE you charge blindly into doing such, be thankful the penalty is not more severe and that more than likely, you are young enough you have the chance to correct course before it's too late and fuck yourself up for good, with life long problems. You do know some dudes never got that chance and are now dead? Dude about your age years ago thought messing with slin was good for him despite basically everyone screaming no at him, he died weeks later. You do heavy leg work outs like deep squats, hiking with weighted vest or back pack up hills, sunlight, and diet avoiding soy and other foods that can destroy test levels and find foods, herbs, vitamins etc like Ginseng that help boost your system naturally. These are all things you can do to name a few that will help your NHP hopefully come back to life, close contact with many women is another, Haha, it's true though. Don't be lazy kid, make the effort to research and then repeatedly cross reference your research to vet out bro science from whats fact, fuck you got this thing called the internet, so damn easy, we use to have to buy magazines and books, go to a god damn library in our quest for knowledge, you can do all this without ever leaving the damn couch. Now good luck and hope you nothing but the best. Last but not least, DO NOT FORGET, I myself am no expert and honestly do not know a god damn thing!! I may be your worst enemy if you trust what i say as fact, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH like your life and future depend on it!!

Greg's picture

how much do i pin before starting pct...

How much should I eat before I start my diet?

Vcomplex22's picture

Can you please give me some advice @Greg .

KMC's picture

You do NOT need advice. (You will keep looking for advice till someone tells you what you want to hear.)

You just need to stop.

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Vcomplex22's picture

I've updated my post with better grammar. Thanks for the heads up, that was worded terribly.