posted Fri, 07/22/2022 - 01:03
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Which form of Epistane is better? (Havoc vs IBE Epistane)
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I've tried the Havoc and loved it. Its chemical name is the exact same as the chemical name for epistane given on wikipedia. IBE's version is different. As a prohormone maybe it has similair metabolites as epistane. But it's different. Anyone have experience with both and notice a difference?
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The one that doesn't hang itself
Lmfao. I feel this comment hasn't received the recognition it deserves.
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Not everyone wants to be big… reality check lol
Time to move away from that stuff and start using the real deal now.
Epi is my favourite for mental effects tho. Masteron and proviron had no mental effects for me. ABout to try Tbol soon so wish me luck
TricepatopsSurprised proviron doesn't. If on test it can do wonders for well being due to it increases the use of test.
i was on test at the same tme, im sure it helped with increasing free T as my SHBG lowered. but literally only effect was SHBG and HDL being crushed. i ran it up to 100mg a day. found out the hard way that these hormones affect everyone differently;. even switched brands twice
TricepatopsEither the proviron I would say was junk or you have something wrong that doesn't make you convert test to free test which is the usable kind. Proviron is some great stuff.
no my free T did increase and SHBG went down but i got no unique effects from the proviron itself. essentially just an SHBG and HDL crusher for me
Which one lowered your shbg, Epi or Havoc?
Proviron lowered it, never did bloods from taking epistane. And I’ve only used Havoc, haven’t tried IBE’s version
Well I did experiment with a few designers during the designer era. Lol folks for some reasons thought these substances were " prohormones "
wrong these were actual methylated oral designer anabolic steroids. Like any methyl steroid these designers could possibly cause serious liver issues. In fact Sdrol combined with another designer did cause liver failure for some. As far as Epistane and Havoc? I clearly remember both. Basically the same but a slightly different chemical modification. Epistane was more of a cutter but made joints dry and ache. Ok strength gains. Havoc was good for strength, increased aggressiveness and sex drive. Made muscle appear fuller as opposed to dried out like Epistane did. Wow Memories
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