test e 300 inject pain
I'm new to cycling, not to lifting, about 10 years natty. I just started my second cycle, im running test e 300 @ 600mg/wk. when injecting into my quad i get a sharp pain (the best way i can describe it is a sharp stinging feeling) but after injection i barely feel a thing. i did a lil research on google to try and figure out what was going on, but i couldn't find a thread with a case similar to mine. mosly what i found was people dealing with crippling pain in the hours/days after injecting, where as mine is only during the injection. what i found is it could be from a high BA content, crystals falling out of suspension, or even the oil being real thick. what im not sure about is whether any of the reasons i stated are causing my pain, being the circumstances are a lil different. I can def deal with the pain its not a big deal, i just don't wanna be sticking myself with something thats gonna cause harm down the road. My first cycle i ran test e @ 500mg/wk from a different source, and it went in perfectly smooth, i didn't feel any pain/discomfort at all which is why im tryna figure out why its happening this time around. my bad if this may be a dumb rookie question, but thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this!
* I didn't mention the labs I used, didn't kno if it was allowed.
age: 27
hgt : 5' 8"
weight: 195
bf% : not sure have a six pack tho
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I was going to make a couple points that were already made (alcohol not evaporated, not switching needles).. Just want to add to the switching of needles;
That's an insulin syringe, but you get the point
Hitman187wow thats crazy n def looks like it would hurt, but yea i use a different needle to pin and draw everytime, there way too cheap not to
Yea if you are gonna invest your time and money into the gear, why wouldn't you invest the same into the cheapest part of the process.
Changing needles between drawing and injection is an extra step in handling that is more likely to INCREASE infection. When you swab the vial top and yourself with different wipes, that is as clean as you're going to get. And LOL to saying it hurts after pinning with a drawing needle because it is dull after poking through one rubber stopper. The only reason to change a needle is you are inpatient or at the bottom of the vial and want to draw faster with a larger bore needle.
WOW! very nice illustration, thank you for that. +1
Seeing this picture is what got me convinced to use draw needles. I was surprised how much easier the fresh needle went through the skin.
No doubt, when I first started I pinned with the same needle I drew with, but have since stop doing that. I've never reused needles and can't imagine what that would look/or feel like.
I see a lot of talk about "scar tissue" down this thread!............ you have NO scar tissue yet so dont be thinking down that road....... scar tissue comes after years of ED pinning.
RustyhookerYou're harpooning yourself with stainless steel and forcibly injecting yourself. And you wonder why it hurts????
¤hands a case of man the eff up¤
Does that mean........... GROW A FKN PAIR?............................................ LMFAO!
RustyhookerStinging. That's like lil boo boo and unicorn bandaid.
What bugs me here is op is scared of long term health issues with scar tisdue top of list.
Op....homework for you. Find cellulitus images and post links.
Find mrsa info...read and post.
Find cholesterol crashing gear. Post links.
What is axis? Precycle bloods? How ling til you're PERMANENTLY pinning test for trt?
Do homework and I'll boost karma and help ya out.
Hitman187you kno what bro im good on the research thing. apparently you get negative karma around here for tryin to learn shit and better yourself, i dont give a fuck about a lil sting from the pin. i shot other drugs for years everyday up to 10x a day, not that im proud of it, but poking two holes in me a week ain't nuttin. i just didnt kno you felt nething from test. didnt kno if it was normal or if i had beat shit or not. now i know!!! my shit is good and thats all im worried about now.
*but someone negging me for trying to learn is b.s, and rubs me the wrong way. i just wana kno who n why. anyone who negs sumone on here should be man enuff to step up say it was them and why. youd earn a lil respect from me and prob others. rite now you got none from me
Rustyhooker¤hands a tissue¤
No. You cane on whining about a sting yet now wanna brag about being an adfict and toughness. Blood test is the ONLY wsy to know if gear is working. But you didnt ask about good gear signs/symptoms. You based your debate on stinging injections. Thats jyst flat redundant!
Heres your ksrma back because im tired if your whining.
¤powders diaper¤ off lil tyke. Find a quarter and call one who cares.
Hitman187theres nuttin to brag about with being an addict i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. i dont wana go back n forth over a computer. thanks everyone for trying to help, even u too mtyhooker im sure your intentions are in the right place, what i take away from this is the (minor) pain i feel when injecting is normal with ugl. like i said i didnt experience this first time around so i wasn't sure if it was normal. now i know it is. u wont kno unless u ask
RustyhookerTrue. I got agitated when folks gave options and you retorted bout the obvious. Folks realky DO care here and want you to grow.
Opinion....for me personally the stinging jyst during injection is alcohol was still damp on skin. Don't blow the alcohol to dry it as we found in chem class that blown air will transmit germs.
When you find an oil that elevates your hormones and has very lil pip, you grab what you can or take notes of oil and solvent used. Those compounds will make a cycle easy or painful. Some oils/solvents react and can give real pip. Other times you can simply pin too close to a nerve.
I hope your cycle is very successful sir!
Hitman187thanks man. we just had a lil misunderstanding, i guess it was the way i worded things but i did not mean to dismiss anyone , not my intention at all. again i want everyone to kno i greatly appreciate them taking the time to give me their advice/opinions. i didnt come here to make enemies i came here to join this brotherhood we all have a passion for, we all have common goals most of us eat, sleep and breath this life style, boarderline obsession for me at least,
RustyhookerProstate, hairloss,, hpta, 5alphareductase, androgen vs anabolic, sex binding hormone, bf and estradiol, what forms of estrogen, serms, ai
Hitman187I'm not worried about or stressin' the pain, it's nothing. i just wanted to make sure my gear wasn't beat or anything. I always thought test e was supposed to be smooth with no pip, except for higher dosed stuff. learning something new everyday
RustyhookerYou dont have pip. You know and already stated that. Stinging during injection is not pip. 30seconds per cc. Stinging? Man up. That's real deal man. You want some pip i can surely point you to a source or 5 and will get you some eq ace to man with. Lol!
Eat and grow. Keep it simple
Pimp hand strong
RustyhookerSorry. It was stinging me.
Ha
Hi bro,
Always good to check the pinning guide to make sure you are in the right area:
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
Also, check that website also for guidelines on pin gauges and lengths for different muscle groups.
As Gymjunkie1978 says below, use the glutes - use a mirror so you can see what u are doing - the website above will show u the location.
Too high BA or BB would cause swelling and pain post injection and the chemical falling out of solution (the test you are using is a solution not a suspension - big difference) only occurs post injection as the BA evaporates.
U know, come to think of it what length pin and pin gauge are u using anyways - that could be the problem.
GearHead
Hitman187i use 25g 1 1/2". on top of it being small gauge the oil is thick so it takes that much longer to get in there. i am terrible at staying still im all over the place which i kno causes pain, but i kno its a different pain then what i was originally refering too. everyone brought up some good points but im leaning towards what JL said wit scar tissue
Are you pinning with same needle you are drawing with?
If so your gonna have a bad time
That dulls needle and makes for more pain
Excellent point. I always switch needles, never even though to ask him that.
I get that same sensation in my left quad only. Doesn't matter what I pin. I don't get pip or anything. I think it is scar tissue in my case. I stopped pinning in my left quad, problem solved!
Hitman187there ya go. everyone brought up some good points im def gonna look into, but scar tissue is at the top of the list. first cycle i did my dumb ass pinned quads just about everytime, so its safe to assume i prolly got a good amount of scar tissue in there. lesson learned, so far this cycle im pinning my shoulders, glutes, and quads.
Hitman187-1 for what? thats bullshit. i guess thats what you get around here for tryna learn. who did it man up n give a reason for it at least, aint hard behind computer
RustyhookerI did. You're on here askin info but kniw it all then crappin at dude trying to help. More questions?
Do your homework youngster
Hitman187i didnt crap on no one i gave everyone props n thanks for helping, you should check your glasses or you cant read rite homeboy thats wouldnt be a bad reason for neggin sumone but you got it all fucked up i said everyone brought up sum good points n i was guna look into everything everyone brought up, but i was guessing scar tissue was at top of the list of prob it may be didn't say it was it def it.
RustyhookerWhats your old user name on here?
Hitman187first and only
i been on here almost a year. i dont post much, more into reading/learning from what others have to say
Hitman187it was dumb poking myself in the same spots the first time i kno it was dumb and just put it out there so i wouldnt have to hear people tell me i was an idiot for it, i already knew it wasn't towards 1 person it was a general statement. im not a kno it all by far, i wouldnt be on here asking for help if i thought that way. ill leave being the know it all to you bro
I have ran Test Blend 400 in the past and this current cycle of Test-E 275. All I used was Quads and never had any actual pain during my 2ml shot. Having said that the 400 caused real bad PIP for about 7 days and the 275 for around 5 days. This occurred the following day.
The only pain that I got from Quads during my shot was if I glanced against a Nerve going in or during the shot my leg twitched a couple of times. Apart from that the process was totally painless.
Recently I have been Grazing Nerves in my quads quite frequently so decided to switch to Glute shots. I was shitting myself the first couple of times for reasons unknown !! (Possibly horror stories about the Sciatic Nerve).
Just stick to slowly pushing in 1ml every 30 secs and you shouldn't go far wrong.
As a side note I prick the surface and push the rest of the needle in very slowly. Not sure if this is the most effective way but I think if I can feel a Nerve start to twitch it can be removed and re-pinned in another location.
i'm always a bit concerned when people say to just poke it straight in all the way to the base !!
Different gear= different pip
Have you pinned quads before? If the pain doesn't last or there is no redness or swelling you're fine, all gear is different.
Do u use alcohol swabs cause if u do and don't let it dry completely it can burn and sting when u inject could be something as easy as that
good point
What IT sounds like to me
if your only pinning Test you should be pinning that into your glutes.. its a larger muscle and you will feel less pip. make sure you asperate to make sure you did not hit a vein. you should have better results there. also make sure you are using alcohol pad to sterilize the area and the top of the vial before injecting to reduce the chances of an infection.
Try pinning somewhere else see if you still get the same pain.