HGH Overhyped for Aesthetics? My 15-Month Experience)
Hey everyone,
I just stopped a 15-month run of HGH at 4 IU daily, split AM/PM. Honestly, I think it’s heavily overhyped for aesthetics.
In my experience, running HGH alongside a test and primo cycle is a bad mix. The HGH fluid retention basically masks the primo, completely wasting that hard, dry look it’s supposed to give you. I’m only 5 days off it, so the water blanket hasn't fully cleared out yet, but it’s already starting to go away. I can already see more lines and veins coming through, and I visually look sharper and bigger without that constant bloat. Plus, dropping the afternoon fatigue has been a huge upgrade.
I'm starting to think a clean, dry protocol delivers a much better look without all the daily hassle.
What are your thoughts? For those who have run it alongside dry compounds, do you think it wastes the cycle, or what’s your opinion on how it changes your look?
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Between GH and KLOW, I fucking love both compounds. I sleep amazing, my skin is nice, recovery is nice. I did get some bad sides on 8iu (1 particular brand but have since changed and those sides went away) and higher doses, but 3-4iu has me feeling good.
If I was spending over 60 cents an iu then I would say its not worth it, but Im not so.. I got really good IGF numbers from some generic GH as well.
Drop the Primo and run Masteron instead. More monies for more GH! I do believe at 6iu and above, it gives me a lot more fullness/roundness. I don’t get excess water retention. It wrecked my sleep at first until I dropped down to 4iu which I was taking fasted in the AM. I now take 6iu right as I’m laying down for bed and it doesn’t affect my sleep anymore. I do take a hefty “sleep stack” so I can’t really say if the GH adds to my sleep, I just know it no longer wrecks it. I was waking up feeling swollen, watery. Couldn’t go back to sleep for the life of me. I enjoy it now that I’m more accustomed to it. I think 6iu is a real good spot for me. 8+ made me hold a lot of water, but it’s probably something I could titrate to if deemed necessary. If you can afford it, run it. I don’t think it’s a make or break though
Crazy you said that I was thinking the same. I actually have Mast E 200 on hand but have never tried it. I’ve heard it can increase urination and potentially make lipids and PSA worse, which is why I’ve stayed away from it. On 450 test / 500 primo, my lipids are great. and BP also so I’ve been hesitant to add anything else that could throw those numbers off.
I only ran primo at a lower dose for a short time, so I can’t really compare or give an honest opinion on it. I do believe it needs to be ran higher, like around where you’ve got it or higher to get the full effect. Tons of people run Test/Mast/Primo and love it. I will revisit it in the future, I’m sure
I’ve ran it a few times. It doesn’t seem to affect my bloodwork more than anything else. It can have a decent impact on cholesterol, but nothing I can’t outdo with cardio, omega 3s, obviously the clean diet and 10mg of ezetimibe. I go for blood work in like 2 weeks. I’ll keep you posted. I love Masteron myself
Thanks pal. I Gotta try one of those test/mast primo blends make it so much easier lol
I’ve used HGH for many years, typically at 2 to 5 IU. I feel it helps with recovery and definitely improves my sleep, making it a great complement to my TRT. I also notice that I keep more muscle when using it off-cycle.
I take it at night now because when I took it during the day, I’d get so tired I felt like I urgently needed a nap.
There’s a lot of hype around it. I got two people on HGH the other week, and after just one week, they were already reporting that they could "feel the pump" and that "their veins were popping"—which is ridiculous.
In my actual experience, it takes 3 to 6 months of consistent use to notice a real difference. Over time, I felt I had a rounder look and appeared more cut, though I admit that could be subjective.
Yes so true. But on cycle running 500 primo with it is a waste prob better to save the primo and run test with something else lol
Yep agree with ya here.
Made me tired through the day at 3 iu before bed fasted.
I actually enjoyed the routine more with cjc and ipa personally.
Yes
I didn't see a big difference until 4ius then remaining fat dropped off me. 2mg is my year round dose at night.
I have been taking 3iu daily for a couple of months. I can tell a difference in my joints and I get sleepy as shit during the day which I hateThat is the only change I have made other than that. Do I think its with it, yes to ke it is but its no miracle compound. You need to train hard eat right and get rest and keep eye on blood work when using gear. Just my 2 cents.
Out of curiosity what time do you take your gh? I've heard a lot of people say it makes them tired and fatigued during the day. I just started 2iu taken at bedtime
Right before be around 7pm. I get up around 3am. Might have to change to morning idk. I about fall out my chair in the middle of the day I'm so sleepy.
That's my exact routine haha. People give me shit for going to bed that early and waking up then but I like to lift before work so it's perfect for me. Do you get any noticeable water retention from 3ius?
Thata been my routine for a long time. Only change was adding gh, so its got to be the gh. No water retention so far. Im went up to 4iu last night see what happens.
Awesome, yeah I hope I don't notice anything in the short term on 2IUs. Hopefully long term it'll show benefits, but water retention is something I don't run into at that low of a dose
Yea I know evwrone is different. I ran real pharma gh back in the day long time ago because all you could get and its eas very very expensive that's why I'm a little hesitant on gh now because its pennies on the dollar from back then. I done jave alot of experience with it now if days. I say you find good gh stick with that source.
Yes. They say real GH is zero bloat
Can't be, sterostim sides include water retention and carpal tunnel like feeling, which is a side effect of peripheral edema, aka water retention.
The literature with the medication says EOD dosing is good at mitigating those sides. Those patients also take 18iu a day..
Really
Like pharma. Not sure never tried
I have been saying this for a while, HGH is WAY overrated. Not worth the hassle nor the cost, basically didn’t see shit when I did a cycle of it except for numb hands in the morning.
lol yeh
I feel the same way while running test, mast, tren, and HGH. I’ve also been doing 4iu split twice daily. I appreciate your post and hearing from other’s perspectives and experiences. Maybe I need to up my dose or stop altogether. Like you with primo, I’m wondering the pros and cons of adding GH with mast and tren.
My muscle bellies are popping way more, and my vascularity has gone up noticeably. I was already vascular before, but the definition and separation are even crazier now. Only 5 days off HGH.
People often think hgh is going to provide the big muscle gains they hear about. But every body fails to realize unless your blasting like 15-30iu daily, your kinda just getting the anti aging benefits and a lot of people confuse the water retention for muscle. Yes it does help heal of course, but the muscle building/new cell stuff you hear is when your blasting it. When I used to use hgh I found a big plug source for dirt cheap I tried doing 20iu daily, it definitely did help me build more permanent muscle, but I looked insane, head like a basketball, my shoes didn't fit anymore, so sleepy, numb ass hands haha looking like a Michelin man. But after I stopped I noticed the muscle I put on especially in my arms. But this is not recommended and will cost you a ton if your buying it off here.
The first time I used it I got 10 pounds heavier on cycle but it was a it of water weight. I think it helps a lot but not for the price. Plus your heart and organs grow blasting it too long
Yeah, that's kinda what got me hooked at first, I gained a some weight and thought it was muscle lol. Yeah unless you were getting it from sources that supply these sources it's expensive. And yeah the potential side effects are bad especially if you blast it.
So true. Personally, I feel like 450 test / 500 primo combination shines way more without the 4 IU of HGH. I’ve only ever run that combination alongside HGH, so I never really knew the difference. But I’m only 6 days off HGH, and I’m already noticing way more separation, vascularity, and better pumps. And less face bloat
4iu really isn't nothing especially spilt. Your probably get more results taking mk677 especially if your younger. If you want to see what GH really has to offer you need to take 10iu or more. Then you need to watch your bg which isn't rocket science like people try and make it out to be. GH is nothing like steroids where more isn't better. It's the complete opposite. So if you want to know what it can do do a vial a day. And you won't need 15 months to see. I'd give you 3 before you do. 4 tops i doubt it thought.
Hey man, sent fr, have a question for ya.
lol thanks champ
You got it champ. So stop those bullshit ass doses and do something worth it. Or don't bother with it. Lol
I start at 5iu. Go to 8 then go to 12. Depending what for i might do it at night or 3 times a day. I peak at 18iu day and there's a diff. You just gotta go gradually. Like every 2 or 3 weeks go up. And I've everyone load everyone you go up on hgh ... 200mg androgen for every iu... You can try metforim for bg or just do the real thing and start at 5 post workout. With 50g fast carbs and a meal 20 min later with fast slow carb protein. Like i said it's not rocket science. I do that for a while then mk677 for a bit. And i won't do anything for a month maybe. Hgh wise. Ghrp 2 and 6 are not bad either with cjc 1295 w dac 2.5mg every 5th day.
"200mg androgen for every iu"
Hmm... thats a interesting yet logical equation
Not everybody is built for that.
It won't give someone with bad genetics good genetics.
Im just coming off of 100 days hgh myself... can wait for my water buffalo face to go away.
Haha Lmao same here
Reading this after I pinned gh for the first time smh
Lolll
If the water weight is your main concern, thats exactly why the pros cut it a few weeks out. But there are huge benefits beyond the aesthetics.
I will say, if your IGF is in a good place naturally, and you dont want to use big doses, wait to use it when your igf naturally declines with age. If you started at a 288, probably no need for it.
So true thanks pal. Maybe true pharma would be different. I feel like 450 test 500 primo the 4iu works against me with what I am running . Maybe with other compounds will do better
Blood test igf1? Real bloods posted, not guesses? Calories? Cycle blood tests? Age?
Saying it is or isn't is much much more....
Hey. 39 igf1 was done few months back was at 552 on 4iu. cycle 450 test 500 primo calories 2585 65 fats 225 protein 185 lbs 11percent body fat. 5 ft 10 blood work two months back all good. Going again next month.
Not following. 39igf isn't a normal. Igf1 and hgh is 2 different readings. Noone uses hgh because any peptide can read hgh incorrectly but it looks good.
Igf1 test is 3hrs post dose. Only real hgh will move that igf1 and igf1 is where we look.
552 at 4iu.....huge!
Hgh imo has never been a visual wow. It has its use but its not a big wow. I run hgh lower for old fart syndrome. My natty igf1 is flopped so I get the good sleep from hgh. Faster recovery. But its only noticeable because I need it.
If you're young with proper hgh natty then id read stickies by guru tread on BORN AGAIN. Use that hgh to get the testicular axis back. Folks now never even know about that axis because theres no old fart endocrinology posted. It's boring. But reading that forum might give a newer view and save you big money.
When young....hgh vs food.....I'm sticking to better food. When on pct then BORN AGAIN by tread and a good 8wks hgh to get axis. Preserve loss
Good luck sir
Explained very well, thank you
Sorry I meant age 39 and igf1 552 before I got on it was at 288
Ahhhh!!! Top notch numbers but natty is very impressive too.
Lil research....might be cool or worth time
https://www.eroids.com/forums/hgh-peptides/rhgh/hgh...born-again
Thanks pal
From my experience you will get the recovery and sleep benefits from lower doses 2-3iu / day. Lipolytic benefits at 4iu+ / day.
However, for me running 8iu+ per day along with AAS stack and a peptide is where the big dawg shit starts to happen. I run quite a bit more than 8iu per day currently and can confirm the effects are incredible. My left shoulder had severe pain for years and now zero pain. Sleep is amazing even on high doses of tren. And I am building mass at a much faster rate.
Sure, there is some water retention but potassium, vitamin c and taurine helps a lot. I guess if you want to be stage ready it makes sense to eliminate or greatly reduce anything that causes water retention but the positive effects of GH outweigh the minor hit on aesthetic appearance from water retention.
Diet, cardio and wet AAS compounds play a much larger role in how much water you're holding imo.