So when I was like 30 I had never used any steroids but I lost a ton of muscle, libido, loss of motivation all around feeling horrible. Went to endo, urologist, primary and eventually a hrt specialist. My endo swore I must have used steroids or asked if I had boxed because supposedly hits to your head can mess with your brain chemistry. Multiple blood test showed my total and free test extremely low. Long story short my hrt specialist ended up putting me on 3 months on/ 3 months off of androgel 1.62 at 2 pumps per day run with .25 mg clomid 20 days on 10 off so I didn't atrophy or shut down while I was on and my pituitary didn't get lazy. After 2 rounds I got tested after 3 months right before round 3 and my total test doubled from around 300 to about 600. Free test was in range as well. This was all in an attempt to kick start my natty production (not keep me on trt forever) and it worked for me until I went off on my own and started doing my own thing. 600 still didn't have me personally feeling good enough but the point is that there is hope for boosting your natty. Best of luck. As others have said. Find out the cause.

Stats
Age: 27
Height: 5' 8"
Weight: 205
BF: not exactly sure low enuff to have a full six pack tho

Are your stats current?

Post AAS history, please?

My main goal was to recover my natural test but it didnt look good to my doctor.

How many docs have assessed and evaulated you?

Have you been screened via any diagnostic technique that pin points any reasons for your low testosterone level? Would be better to know for your sake as well as docs before jumping to pharmaceutical concoctions regarding low T, like r/o tumors and acelluar tissue growths, etc....

First off, sorry about any English mistakes I am going to make.
I researched A LOT about TRT. From my research so far I have gathered two things that keep repeating themselves many, many times (both by anecdotal case reports and by a small handful of studies).

1) Clomid does not do anything for you besides raising the values on a blood test. Probably because a) it induces hepatic expression of SHBG (which counteracts PARTLY its testosterone-upping benefit; after your new "setpoint" you might end up with just a slightly higher bioavailable T) and also b) because the SERM itself binds to estrogen receptors in many parts of your brain and makes you feel moody and depressed (similar symptoms as women experience during their menstrual period; which also counteracts the effects of any jump in bioavailable T you might get.) b) is the more important of the two.

2) TRT if done CORRECTLY does NOT impair fertility in the long term. IF DONE CORRECTLY it can even increase fertility (evidence provided by spermiograms both before and after 2 years). How? If you add 300-500iu HCG 2x a week the size of your testicles -and more importantly intratesticular TT levels- remain high and this enables you to come off rather easily anytime you want and inducing fertility is million times simpler compared to not having shot HcG concomitantly because of testicular atrophy (you might have to jump back on TRT again after fertility was restored and has fulfilled its purpose). To restore fertility you could use Clomid or Tamox for a few months to raise FSH which is important but not essential for sperm maturation and thus sperm quality. If your HPTA responds to clomifene/tamoxifen your endogenous LH/FSH should get spermatogenesis going and after 6 months (spermatogenesis takes 120 days to complete) you should be decently fertile again. If that doesn´t work you can always use recombinant LH and FSH (=HMG), which should get the job done, but this is rather expensive
However, TRT does impair sperm quality WHILE you are on TRT because elevated T levels (doesn´t matter if due to T injections or due HcG-induced) both indiscriminately suppress your GnRH and thus your FSH which is needed for the sertoli cells to help with sperm maturation (you are supplementing your LH with HcG so LH is not the problem. A cool thing though is HcG also has a slight affinity for the FSH-receptor and thus your sperm quality does NOT decrease too much even during TRT.)

Here is a study for you:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23260550

Also, check out excelmale.com and Nelson Vergel.

Hope this helps, all the best.

I think that no kids this is a ton of b.s. unless you have a problem in that department already but if your worried like said below freeze some at a clinic. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger he has I believe a 18 year old or so and how many years do you think he ran before that kid was conceived. My wife is pregnant right now and I was thinking no fucking way how the hell I was on test and tren e and wacking it like 3 times a day so I googled the hell out of it and I read a lot of guys that have been blasting and cruising for years and all there kids are healthy and conceived during that time so I wouldn't worry about it to much. I'll give a update for you though if my kid ends up being the ups guys or the mail man's good luck with your natural test bro hope you can kick it back on

Been on trt about 7 years started on androgel about 2 yrs later moved to test c was prescribed 200 mg weekly spoke to dr about having babies was told prob impossible because of duration I've been on I would have to come off completely and would need to be given Clomid and hcg treatment but he said in any case he has never seen someone not bounce back, always able to produce sperm again the hcg dose don't remember exactly what it was but remember it being very high I don't use protection in committed relationship and no pregnancy entire time since on therapy so pretty sure I'm not producing, the androgel worked well in beginning but was not enough the test c works very well .I drop the test c when using other forms of test throughout year, prob 6 mos out of year or so then use it to cruise between cycles

I have a friend that was on test for about 12 years then had a daughter. So saying you'll never have kids is bs

Get your sperm checked and if it's at a few million freeze it. This at least covers you in case the bad happens and you want to have children in the future which I recommend.

Best of luck what ever happens mate.

I'm with Mack, exhaust every option before resorting to trt. Trt is a huge decision. What was your natural test and lh at when he pulled bloods?

I'm no expert on fertility on trt but I'm sure it does not make it impossible. I'm sure it's 10 times more difficult as your natural levels are almost 0 if not zero while on TRT. But plenty of lifters I know I've managed to get girls pregnant while on cycle or TRT. i've never thought about having children myself so I never investigated their methods further. But it's something to look into.

Look up clomid therapy. It has been shown to up your natty level significantly. You can try that for a couple months and then wait a month and see where you stand. Endo will choose either gel or injections. It depends, if he wants you at those levels he might use the gel.