-1 No way to tell of a sources legitimacy
I've posted about bloodwork before but what I mean about a sources credibility is this... There is no possible way to know if a source is selling great that is dosed properly, real, or what it says it is before you purchase it, it does not matter what they post it does not matter what everyone else says, for all you know, you purchased primibolan and get 100mg of test. The only way to truly tell is to get your own bloodwork done. I have purchased from a source who will remain nameless who no longer is available, they were shut down. They posted countless labs and bloodwork. Even the bloodwork specialist on here verified it. But in fact after purchasing and using ONLY Their testosterone and doing my own bloodwork did I realize it was 100% bunk. So my point is don't listen to the hype. Don't go by a rating. Do your own research and be smart. What a lab might make one week could be completely underdosed next week. Also all these labs that are coming out with these 500 and over mg per ml testosterones. Save your money. That can't be done. You cannot contain that much testosterone is that amount of carrier oil unless perhaps a shit load of solvent is used and even then 500 is not possible without a killer infection after inkection so save your money with that stuff do your own research. Just because a source says they are credible does not mean that they are. Just because some guy says he used it and it was "gtg" does not mean it's dosed properly and real. When I see the true weight gain and bloodwork you did yourself. I'll believe it. Be smart. Be safe.
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RustyhookerPrivatemdlabs.com is where blood get tested. Get the female hormone panel for $ 59
AnonI swear to Christmas, I've never wished I had the ability to thumbs up more than I do now. This is the best I can do: ( . Y . )
Well, on the other side of that coin. I have no clue who you are, or if your experiences are real or accurate. If you are extolling the virtues of blood testing, then you should start doing some and posting them for the community. You have been watching too many rich piana videos if you think test won't hold in solution at concemtrations that high. Also, just so you know. Bacterial and viral contaminants cause infection, not solvents or amount of hormone used.
Bobbie1mrI have never watched a rich piana video so I don't exactly know what you mean with that but that is what I've learnt. Go purchase high mg stuff then get it tested then get back to me.
Whoa there, wait just one cotton pickin' minute. Down below he argues that the things he stated are not random thoughts. They are facts. Are you sayin' they're not??
this guy has a point guys. he might be labeled a troll but he brings up a valid argument. i think there is too much fan boy mentality here myself for sources. when i first came here i ran some test from, then the number 1 source, and all the reviews were praising this guy for his gear. shit was underdosed as fuck, with bloods to prove it. so i agree with this guy to a point. but even blood work wont tell you if you have a pure legit product other than testosterone. theres no blood panel to check nandrolone levels or trenbolone levels. im convinced alot fo the "non test anabolics" out there like mast, tren, npp ect is cut with test and most people dont know the wiser. really the only way to be sure is to homebrew and have mass specs done on the material before its brewed
Bobbie1mrThank you. Everyone is calling troll on me but I have no reasons to lie about this stuff.
nah, i agree bro. honestly im done with ugl unless its the only option, now i only run hg test, and SWIM brews the other compounds himself. much cheaper, and more accurate on doses.
RustyhookerNow your bs makes sence.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/gear-2 .
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/censor-sells-fake-mibol...
Bobbie1mrAlright billy crystal
RustyhookerAll your tinfoil head wrap talk and that's your answer? Ok...have fun
Bobbie1mrYeah because your just looking for someone to argue with. You have nothing worthwhile to say your a keyboard warrior. Bye
RustyhookerPost bloods and I'm all ears sir.
Bobbie1mrYour point? Don't get mad because you ran fake gear and thought it was legit. Also a source sending out personal info? I never said they would what does that have to do with anything. As for high mg doses. Labels are not correct. They are not dosed properly
RustyhookerTroll boy!
After reading your scraps, why aren't YOU posting YOUR blood tests to PROVE the vomit flowing out your mouth.
You are one if the trolls sitting back seat bitching about the driver. All yap and flap. All show and no go. Tampon stuck but Noone has the time for a pull. Another conspiracy pussy wrecking this site with Facebook mamby pamby bullshit.
Your flinging with no possible education. You reek of bacon and donuts. Go back to Facebook. You're obviously not here to back your theories or learn. Waste of letters on the page.
Damn, don't ever wanna get you mad. Lol. Tampon stuck but no one has the time for a pull...gotta use that one!
RustyhookerWhen I first read this I bumped him a karma. Thinking he's just talking outside the box and learning. Then he gets wakky. Arguing about a source from years ago. So I read his other forums and they're All about one source. Source been gone for long time. But dude didn't just switch to one of the other 1000 sources here. Or post bloods. Or research.
Easy research. Dan Duchain. He posted recipes that BUILT the basis for all ugl gear. High mg dosed gear. New tweaks with eo has made those upper limits huge. 25 plus years ago. So nothings changed for the worse. It's research, proofs, bloods.
Bobbie1mrFalse. I did switch sources. As soon as I had issues both issues in a same order I switched sources and the only issue I've had they resolved.
RustyhookerThen your reference material and arguments are flawed.
When are you posting your blood proofs? Or easier to just complain?
He sure is flirting with the troll tag...
RustyhookerLol. Maybe after several forums bashing the same source he'll actually post bloods to prove or disprove current use.
It's always the gear to blame though. Damn brewers. ... ;)
Did you ever post bloodwork from your bunk gear?
Bobbie1mrYes I did post bloodwork this was 2 years ago, I'm not making a big deal about it. Why's everyone making a deal about this look into the media. The bunk gear was test and mibolerone. The source no longer is apart of eroids and was closed down its all over the media after they got raided. Also all over the media that they were selling fake labeled testosterone. My post was taken down after the source got into trouble and they got off eroids. Too many waves made. The issue is not bunk gear from them. My post was a generalized statement.
RustyhookerIssues not bunk gear from them? Bs! You got 3 posts all about them!
RustyhookerThere's plenty of high mg per cc gear that holds exactly what it's supposed to carry. Problem is most folks don't know pip management.
Fully agree though on blood tests and posting! Ugl can vary at any time. The only way to force ugl to keeping up standards is with proof.
Bobbie1mrCan you elaborate on the high milligram stuff. I was taught that the maximum that can be held in suspension was mid 300 per ml even pharma testo 400 was proved to not hold and be underdosed I learned through sports medicine and sports enhancement classes, if there is new research or facts out I'm unaware
RustyhookerIn med classes there's no discussion outside of the fda aspects. Back 25 years ago dan duchain preached and taught the ugl brewers how to make quality high dosed gear. 25 years later the brewers have made it down to a science.
Bobbie1mrIn sports medicine as well as sports enhancement there is much talk of anabolics as well as doses trt many things. Not every ugl knows how to Brew properly or even in a lab setting I mean for Christ sake when the last huge source on here got busted he was not brewing out of a lab he was a 24 year old brewing out of a storage space using none pharma oils and selling down right straight oil and using pill presses to press chalk into what they sold as "dianabol" and this a top guy, even reputable places that have very little issues have underdosed high mg stuff. Just facts here
RustyhookerI ran that source and LOVED it. Lots of it. Noone ever posted any proof of quality errors. Storage is storage. Noone knows about that as it should be. But your getting heated and missing the points.
1- you didn't know high dose gear was possible
2- facts are skewed
3 - blood test is only way you will know
4 - no source will post personal info
Any baconnators present? I gave you a +1 on your original ideas. But the neg karma is shining right now
Bobbie1mrYour a fan boy.
Bobbie1mrAgain I did bloodwork. And no facts are not skewed. Facts are facts. He was a 22 year old brewing out of a storage unit using cheap store bought oils and pressing fake orals. Do your own research you can find legitimate news articles on it. Just because you used it and thought it was good don't discredit a fact that he had a shit operation and that's a stone cold fact. Where was your bloodwork from it?
AnonYou had made a few valid points until this comment. Most of that last post was so far off, it's comical. I won't dispute that there is plenty of shady guys out there. But you really don't know what you're talking about when it comes to brewing. I think you had good intentions when you originally posted this, but you're pretty far off base at this. But there's always room to learn and this is a great place to do just that.
Bobbie1mrYou deleted your post about all your credentials. Lol?
AnonFelt it gave a little too much personal info, and frankly, I have nothing to prove to you. A little more positivity and less cynicism might get your karma out of the red. Take care my friend.
Bobbie1mrLol
Bobbie1mrI'm also curious what gives you all this info you have. Are you a professor, have you actually studied this stuff. Or is your info from Internet searches, that's a legitimate question and not trying to be an asshole. Where do you get all of this knowledge you have about brewing?
AnonIm edjumacated.
Bobbie1mrIf your so educated and have all this experience and knowledge why would you post a forum question asking random people about your wife starting androgel and asking what dose. You should know all that stuff already. That is if you really do have those credentials.
AnonUmmmm because I wanted an actual woman's perspective from some one who used it. Not just googling it for a random answer.
Bobbie1mrAs am I. Stuff about the top source is correct. No longer a source here but that's correct. They were also using a blue heart pill press to sell "mibolerone" a pill press from another manufacturer. Like a few years ago a certain lab who I can't name sold the company and their pill presses. Then all of a sudden people bought the old presses and started making a company thay really went out of Buisiness anavar but really it was all filler , this stuff happens more than anyone realizes. you should know that and I would imagine you also heard that first hand since it was quite a controversy
Whatever someone posted and then took down... do not refer to in another post.
Bobbie1mrNo what I stated are facts. Facts that you can find all over. If your talking about the comment about the top source and what they did those are facts. Ask around. Or look into it yourself. I'm not claiming to know everything. But I do not make things up or guess this as a matter of fact I don't even get my info from random internet searches. Point being the things I stated are not random thoughts. They are facts, and you don't have to believe me you can dive into it yourself. Or you can keep trying to say Im wrong. At least look into things yourself. Do further research other than just this website. Like real life studies and what not before downplaying what I'm saying.
Like this fact?
AnonYou should have taken a couple chemistry classes while you were at it. 500mg of test e is not very challenging, just requires a high amount of bb to hold it. You can get mega doses to hold with the adequate amount of solvents. It would be unusable due to the amount of pip involved. But every compound has a molecular weight and space it fills within a cubic centimeter. You can break this stuff down to simple mathematics. Legitimate brewing chemistry is far different than a bunch of buddies home brewing their own stuff just for the hell of it. There is absolutely sources out there selling bunk and under dosed gear. That's a fact. But to say anything has been proven that these high mg compounds are fictitious is just plain inaccurate. Why isn't pharma test cyp dosed higher than 200mg/ml? Because it's intended for hormone replacement therapy. Not for an athletic or physical advantage. People assume because it's not dosed higher, then it must be impossible to do so.
Bobbie1mrYes I'm aware at a mega dose with so much bb that was unusable. What I'm also saying is that any single test I have encountered at a dose of over 300mg has been either fake or at least underdosed. I have never encountered a dose of 500mg that was a true 500mg. Exactly why a plain sustanon 350 has 3 different solevents in it and bad pip all in saying is is it possible yes maybe I didn't artoculate correctly it's possible in a true lab setting but a lot of these ugl are not lab settings and even then a lot are underdosed. Even the test 400 from Mexico purchased at legit certified pharmacies down there is proven to not actually be 400mg. Possible. Yes but these ugl don't actually do that. They put 250, 300, maybe higher and claim more and when the labs are actually done its proven inaccurate.
AnonThe difference in producing a 400mg test e and a 300mg test e is pennies on the dollar. I'm not saying there's not a lot of guys out there doing it. But the money you would save by under dosing gear is minuscule compared to the money lost by lack of business from a bad rep. It ultimately starts with the raws. Bottom of the barrel ugl's generally do not have the contacts to obtain quality raws like the guys who have done this for many years. That's where many of the under dosed stuff comes from in my opinion. And test 400 purchased from a legit certified pharmacy in Mexico might as well have been produced by the donkeys they use to smuggle them across the border.
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I have to agree.
Some people bargain hunt, some follow the ratings/rankings, some shadow the high karma memebers, some base their decision of other peeps bloodwork/labwork, some even go with the shiniest labels or the best reviews :/
Point is there is no gold standard where you are 100% garunteed to land the golden egg best of the best gear (unless it's prescribed) Researching the S*** out of Si pages, talking to members you have built up a level of respect and trust with, trial and error I've found to be a good BASE to work from and make your OWN judgment call on but when its all said and done (like the OP memtioned) it has to come down to your own experince, how it worked for YOU, most importantly YOUR gains and blood work.