This is a 21 year old kid. Everytime I call him out on his bull shit age his threads get deleted.

You're still shutting your system down. All HCG does is trick your balls into thinking it's still producing LH, but it's not. Hell, if the only thing you ran was HCG and no juice at all you'd still be throwing a wrench into your HPTA because you'd have so much test your body would say "well fuck it, we don't have to try as hard to make this shit anymore! Hey Larry, go take that vacation you've been talking about, we won't need your help for a while."

The only thing you're doing with the HCG is keeping your balls full size so they're in better shape to start working on their own again once it's time. So your body won't have to A) try to get those balls full again, and B) wait for Larry to get back from Mexico so it can try to start making test again. With the HCG, Problem A is already accomplished, but your workers are still lazy and used to not having to work, so with Clomid and Nolva you're just giving them the caffiene and motivation to get going again.

So moral of the story is, no matter what drugs you use, you're still shutting down, the drugs just help you get back to normal faster. you'd get back to normal without them it just would take a lot longer. And with drugs or not, if you use enough there will come a time that it doesn't work and Larry's never coming back from vaca. You take enough trips to Mexico and you're eventually gonna want to stay there. And that's where TRT comes in. So if you want to avoid that be responsible and don't let Larry get too used to vacation.

You shouldn't need to ask this question. You should already know the answer if your using. Sounds like you really need more research.

And this may only be personal opinion, but that's too much HCG. if your running it the whole cycle, all you should need is 250iu twice a week. And make sure you stop HCG a week before PCT. As I stated earlier, HCG is suppressive, so you don't want it combatting your clomid/nolva.