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Boldenone CYPIONATE

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My question is if results will be seen quicker with bold cypionate compared to the "standard" equipoise with the undecylenate ester. I am just curious as to whether you could run a 12 wk cycle incorporating the bold cyp and receive its full potential. I know that it is recommended to run EQ at least 16 weeks because it takes longer to kick in because of the long undecylenate ester. Other than the time frame to experience maximum benefits, I am assuming the effects are the same since boldenone is the active steroid. Is my reasoning totally off base here or have I made correct assumptions?

UncleYoked's picture

That's a very vague statement bro. There can be so many variables that contribute to pip. What bothers you may not phase me and vice versa. Additionally, different labs use varying amounts of BB and BA, different carrier oils, and different suppliers of raw material. To simply say that it's the worst pip ever is simply your opinion. I've never gotten pip from any eq, not even acetate.

iStallion033's picture

Got ya, all the research I have done bold sounds like an awesome compound, I'm a cycle virgin a 16 weeks cycle is inappropriate for me at this time but bold Cpy is in my sights to try 2-3 cycles in. How is pip with bold cyp find have read some horror stories with shorter ester bold.

To answer your question makwa a 12 week cycle of bold cyp( with test of course ) would work but it seems in general bold is better ran on a long cycle

UncleYoked's picture

Bold cyp isn't bad at all. Bold ace can have some bite to it at times. Eq would be a good transition for someone who has already ran a few good quality cycles of test and is ready to progress to another compound. It's the patient mans drug because it takes time to get optimal gains. Most vets love it. Younger guys seem to get frustrated with it because their patience is not developed as most older men, generally speaking.

iStallion033's picture

Yok,

Why would bold cyp need to be ran for 15+ weeks? My understanding is the only reason that eq needs to be ran so long is due to the undec ester, the long half life you don't have high enough blood levels until week 8 ( give or take a week) if it was ran at 12 weeks you stop eq right after it becomes effective.

But with bold cyp you should have appropriate blood levels at week 4, running it for 12 weeks would give you 8 weeks of the bold working, this would be the same of running eq for 16 weeks ( kicks in week 8 and last shot week 16). Does this make since or am I missing something , I realize after the last shot of eq, it will take longer to clear than bold cyp but a 12 week bold cyp cycle should be effective, right?

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Yeah it would definitely bring about quicker results than running undecylanate. The actual compound itself is just more suited for longer durations. I've ran both at equal cycle lengths and got virtually the same results. I would prefer running bold cyp to be honest if I had both side by side.

UncleYoked's picture

Eq with the cyp ester attached has a half life of around two weeks. Eq with undecylanate attached can have half life of up to around 19 days. Regardless of which you choose, both will need to be ran for a longer period of time for maximum gains. 15+ weeks being about the minimum cycle length.