posted Wed, 02/07/2018 - 02:47
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Anadrol and gyno
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So personally I am very gyno prone. Most compounds that have any estrogenic activity higher than test will flare my preexisting gyno up. Dbol is literally a death sentence for my nips lol. My question is what are your guys experience with anadrol in relation to this topic? Does it flare you up? Does it not? And since it is a dht derivative which should not be able to convert to estrogen because of the double hydroxy chain on the dht? I’ve heard it can almost act as it’s own estrogen source or latch directly to the receptor. So would that call for a SERM then? Or other ancillaries? Any info is welcome thanks bros!
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Forget about the possible gyno - the Death sentence for me is the way it makes me feel! The lethargy, headaches and depressive feeling absolutely ruin workouts for me. I'll never run it again
That’s a few weeks later stage gyno is for life bro haha
I don't, a friend who has ran it with me when we were younger got gyno on an anadrol only cycle.
Like most things in this game.. try it and find out for yourself!
I have a small bit if gyno hidden away.
High estro and it flares.
Recently pulsing anadrol at 80mg and no issues. However, i was running test and therefore estrogen, very low (to non existent at times ). So this makes me say, if your not taking so much test that you are spilling over and need an Ai or SERM on cycle, you are likely ok. - that is to say if you are able to maintain close to off cycle estro levels or minimally raised... you will be fine id say
What exactly are the benefits of pulsing less sides better lipid values or is there more to it?
Adrol has such a piss poor binding affintity. It is essentially zero so it tends to diminish in effectiveness very quickly after administration. Point of diminishing returns if ran beyond that point. Pulse it to keep receptors fresh and get the most results from it.
Exactly this @Makwa, plus @lp2482 , in my personal opinion its requires a load that will elevate liver values (prob lipid values flipped too but thats small fry compar3d to liver kidneys etc... again in my personal opinion), to be effective, so the pulse approach definitely minimises that, but yes and other sides too.
Look its all relative... and subjective too... i myself come from a land where beer and ale and whatnot are a big part of our culture... so compounding various liver murderers isnt sustainable... but the same applies to all really
We really, all of us, need to try to make this gig sustainable
RustyhookerAll the medical websites claim that they've not found drols reasoning for nipple flares. Only hypothesis is that is sensitizes estrogen receptors. Turns em on basically. Some guys will run a low dose of nolva should it be a problem.
Gyno prone? You ran bloods and they showed what levels at what dose? Whats you method of control?
I first got gyno when I was younger and dumber on a test dbol cycle. I’ve been dealing w it since then the only compounds which don’t flare it are eq mast superdrol tbol etc. got bloods pulled a couple months ago and e2 was at 49pg/ml with is within normal range but that was also on a 200mg/wk cruise. Currently running test cyp 600/wk eq 800wk I’m on week 5. For now only using anastrazole .5 ed. Ralox ashould work well tho and possible diminish gyno tho since it’s also a serm?
RustyhookerI am a fan of eq. Just gotta donate blood bout week 9.
Thats a strong dose of ai. Your blood tests show that much conversion? Aromasin is stronger if needed.
Ive not studied ralox. Just low doses nolva if needed. Others will be better there.
I don't know about gyno but anadrol make very high hematocrit . this is the only problem that I had. Increased pressure and headaches. I have taken anadrol with a deca and would not say that anadrol affects e2. but I think etr individually. Do not relax. you need to monitor the level of estradiol and prolactin.
Most of the time when people have issues with adrol is when their bodyfat is too high.
13-14% should be fine I’d think?
check your E2 before your run and if needed use aro or ai.
I never got gyno from drol but from dbol, I think everyone reacts different...