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Blood work immediately after cycle - Questions

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So I just got done running 200mg of testosterone cypionate/week and 50mg of dianabol/day and after a week of the end of my cycle, I got some blood work done and I have a few concerns. Here are what showed up out of range:

HDL CHOLESTEROL 38 L
LDL-CHOLESTEROL 120 H
NON HDL CHOLESTEROL 146 H
GLOBULIN 1.8 L
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 1050 H

My test results were:

TESTOSTERONE, FREE 233.6 H
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MS 899

I wasn't blasting. I'm wondering if my cycle could have affected the above, aside from my test.

I also experienced inflammation in my left nipple and am waiting on some Nolvadex in hopes to help treat that. It is noticeably inflamed, but nothing severe.
I'm a beginner, just to note. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

SeeOhShow's picture

Takes many weeks for cholesterol to recover to baseline. All orals will do some significant transient damage to your lipid profile. Give it a few more weeks and go get your CMP and lipid panel done. Only like $10 per test. Your liver enzymes and cholesterol should be back to normal by then. It’s taken me up to 6 weeks to get back to normal, but it does get there.

esogenics's picture

Yes, it most certinly has. Do a lot of cardio, get your bad lipds down. Drink a ton of fluids to keep your kidney's flushed. Eat vegitibles, chicken, and rice. Hike a mountain if you can moderate to advance every day for 3 months, that will be all back to normal. Don't eat processed food.

Puffy nipps in my experiance is excess fat and maybe gyno. You should be able to feel if there is a small lump behind the nipple to tell if it's gyno. When you're on gear, you need to do cardio every day to help keep your lipids in check. You could used some type of statins but I would try to stay away from it. If you're not going to do cardio, don't do gear.

psychogenic's picture

There is a small lump behind my nipple. Cardio isn’t an issue. I’m very adamant about incorporating cardio into my daily workouts. As far as the gyno, Nolvadex is on it’s way. Is there anything else I should know as far as treating the gyno? I’ve read all kinds of stuff as far as surgery being needed but I don’t believe it’s that bad. I do hope it’s going to go away. Thank you for your comment!

esogenics's picture

that's most likely the gland and the very start of what could be gyno. I assume it is the size of a pea. i have had that before as well. I took a SERM and stayed off of my PCT until I cleared. I was on Test C when I got that. it took 2 weeks for my test to drop. You should be good. If it was just test then your estrodial got too high. You might get a little milk out of the nip if you squeez your nipple in a miking formation. Did you do anything like Deca or was it all test base? there are other in here that can also help out, it will take them a few days. However, now you know you're sensative to whatever it was you were taking and the amount. you need to document this. On another note, I would get the glands removed. If there is really nothing there, in my part of the world it $3500 for both, but if there is breast and fat, the price goes up.

psychogenic's picture

Is the nolva gonna suffice as far as a SERM? And I was planning on using it for my PCT as well. And I only ran dbol and test c. If there’s something else I should take for the gyno, or as far as PCT, let me know so I can get that ordered asap.

esogenics's picture

everyone reacts different from one another. For my PCT, I used Nolva, Clomiphene, and HGC. When I noticed the pea behind my nipple I took just nolva. Then after my nipps were not so sensative and the pea got smaller I sarted my PCT cycle

psychogenic's picture

Okay, so to my understanding, you took only nolva when you noticed the pea behind the nipple and then when it went away, you started taking Clomiphene and HGC alongside nolva?

For future cycles, I was going to plan on taking nolva during the cycle. Yay or nay?

esogenics's picture

Yes, that correct on what I did.

I do not recommend taking Nolva during cycle. I would take a AI. You want to lower your Estrodial not have it selective. My personal experiance is this: if itchy nips, estrodial too high, take AI. But you want to make sure you take your bloods before, during, and after. I usually take my bloodwork 3 times during a cycle along with one before and one after.

psychogenic's picture

Okay. Copy that. So Arimidex during cycle would be okay? And then after, I can do PCT. Unless I have the nip issue again… then nolva, and PCT when it subsides.

esogenics's picture

Make sure you check your estrodial, lipids, and your CMP while you're on cycle. It's very important to stay on top of it. If you get itch nips take a AI. I would take anastrozole or arimidex every 2 or 3 days when I had itchy nips. Keep a log of how you feel, what you notice, and what your current dosage is. This way you can look at everything from the big picture and narrow down what works for you with a finetooth comb.

You're on a long ester so make sure you wait 2 maybe 3 weeks before starting your PCT. That's what I did. I personally like ethanate over cypanate because it doesn't stay in the system as long. Enanthate is a heptanoate, sterol ester while cypionate is an oil-soluble 17 (beta)-cyclopentylpropionate ester. In simple terms, testosterone cypionate has an additional carbon atom which makes its half-life longer, about 8-10 days, as it takes greater time to be metabolized and absorbed by the system. Testosterone enanthate has a half-life of 5-7 days.

infern0's picture

Should’ve got your e2 tested just to know if its the reason for the gyno, get it tested because you might need an ai to run with the nolva.