+ 3 Opinions on this cycle? Have you have gone above 3CC in one pin?
So I never ran NPP. In the past I really enjoyed my Mast, EQ, DHB and Test cycle. This is what I was thinking:
NPP 300mg - .5CC
EQ 300mg - .5CC
TEST 375mg - .5CC
MAST E 300mg - .5CC
DHB 300mg - 1CC
Proviron 25mg
GH 4-6iu
The test I usually run higher, and the reason I put CC next to it is preferably I’d like it to fit in x3 weekly shots with a 3CC syringe. Granted, I never ran Deca or NPP but with all 19nors it can cause some prolactin issues which is exacerbated by e2 levels, so maybe the lower amount of test could be a good thing My goal is to always try to avoid using aromatase inhibitors (hence the low EQ).
I’m staying clear of orals for a while since competing, want to give my liver and body a break from that. Would also like to know if anyone here has used more than 3CC in a single shot, or is that too much oil for a specific area to pin at once.
Also, I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ANY INPUT FROM SOMEONE WHO HASNT RAN ANY OF THESE COMPOUNDS AND JUST WATCHED SOME BS ON YOUTUBE. I’m here for actual experienced thoughts. I am no newbie, I’ve competed in (and have taken 1st) powerlifting and bodybuilding. If you’re a newb, suck my balls
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I've gone 5cc per INJ but I'm retarded
I’ve pinned close to 3cc in the delt. 25g 1inch with very little leakage. No pip, no lumps. Try it and see how it works out for you.
Back in my younger years I used 5cc for a 16 week cycle never seemed to have problems maybe some pip but after it’s seemed I had more scare tissue but not 100% sure I had lumps in my ass that took awhile to absorb. Please be safe and if it don’t feel right don’t do it I got an infection years back was scary shit but antibiotics healed the problem, wish u all the best.
I have no issues pinning 3cc into thigh or ventroglute.
I wanted to add up here... this kinda counts ...
One time, now that I think about it... I pinned 3ml in my glute, had a friend assist me... unscrewed the barrel, left the syringe in my ass, screwed another barbell on, I think i just had another 1 1/2mls in the second one. So I did pin about 4 1/2, maybe 5ml in that one shot.
Dhb binds tighter and leaves excess test to just convert to e2. Makwa has a ton on why and how. Others compare binding to why folks run tren lower as well. Cycle imo is leading towards whole soup cabinet.
Im on 1000 test and 500dhb. Estro is in the 50s
Most ive shot at once is 4cc. Ive done 1cc sust,1cc npp, 1cc tren a, 1cc injectable anadrol EOD and 1cc cyp, 1cc deca, 1cc eq, 1cc tren e E3D. With an extra cyp twice a week seperate to keep test double
For years I pinned 4ml every day mate when I would use Tren Ace and DBol inject too, never had any issues. Used 25g 1" always into Glute, ventro or quad/hamstring. Done a bunch of 5ml pins too for reference.
Ur crazy for hamstring
Hamstring? Psycho.
You a Puff or what??
Yes
You can fit all the oil you want in your big ass muscles you stud.
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Yes daddie
I tried 4ml, and it was a total nightmare. Right now, I’m mixing 1ml of Testo C 250 with 2ml of Deca/Test 400, and I absolutely hate it. 3ml is really bad, even though it all gets absorbed within a week.
I’ve never gone more than 3ml per pin but if I was going to I would probably break them up into two pins and pin two different locations. I think I’d prefer to have two smaller oil depots than one massive one but that’s just me.
You need makwa for the advice on the dhb, hope he's alright. But yeah I have done 4 and 5cc but like my butt muscle would start twitching after I get past 3cc and when my muscles twitch when using smaller 27g needles sometimes it bends the needle. I've always been worried about breaking one off so far deep cuz I would only use 25g and it's not that that strong either. So I kinda only did 4 and 5cc a few times. But I'm also very lean so there's not much place for the oil to spread out to. And also I'm assuming this is all mct oil? Cuz I know it's not really recommended to do big +3cc shots of oils that take longer to absorb because the longer that oil depot sits before absorbing more and more bacteria grows around it. When I ran dhb i started at 400mg a week but dropped to 300 cuz it was hurting too much, but my vials would completely crash at room temp. I never mixed my dhb with many things like that so I don't want to offer any advice. My dhb cycles were test dhb and either hgh or mk677 but I liked the dhb, it was good stuff.
If you are doing multiple 1cc+ pins a week, what muscle groups do you rotate? Are you hitting glutes for each one?
Mostly just upper and lower butt on each side so 4 spots. I don't like putting anything over 1cc in my shoulders.
The math isn't quite mathing for me on some of these volumes vs doses, but ok maybe you've got really high concentration gear.
I've definitely hit 3 mL (cc) in the quad, ventroglute, and glutes for many cycles. Never a problem. Delts, maybe I'm a pussy but more than 0.5 mL really impairs my lateral raises.
That said, I never use a 3mL syringe. The force required to get your gear through the needle is just too much. I instead will just use three 1mL syringes for any given site on injection day. Never been a problem.
NPP is one of my favorite compounds, but I find if you want to really get the most out of it, you should inject it daily, not 3x/week. Similarly, DHB, less is better due to PIP, so I'd also inject daily, mixed with that NPP.
If you run a left leg quad, ventroglute, glute, then right leg glute, ventroglute, quad rotation, that's 6 sites so you're only hitting the same spot every 7th day.
Assuming standard concentration gear, I would probably do something like
Monday EQ 1mL, NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
Tuesday TestE 0.75mL, NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
Wed MastE 0.75mL, NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
Thurs NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
Fri TestE 0.75mL, NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
Sat MastE 0.75mL, NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
Sun NPP 0.42mL+DHB 0.42mL
I think this is the first time I've ever heard of someone doing 3 1cc injects in the same spot instead of using a 3cc needle
To be fair, here I'm suggesting to use 1 mL + a second at 0.84 mL
but I've never used 3mL syringes, it's really difficult to get the plunger down sometimes. That, and if you want to inject something daily, a 1mL syringe is just more precise. I think concerns about the actual number of injections on any given day are a bit overblown...
Im just saying I don't think I've ever heard of anyone doing it that way. You can do whatever you want, I'm not saying you have to do it differently. I understand it not being always easy to push the plunger. If you have luer lock needles, you could potentially unscrew the first 1cc needles, leaving the needle tip inside you then screw the other needles on to finish the injection instead of poking yourself 2x. I'm assuming your probably using maybe a 27g 1cc needle? If you are, they do have 25g 1inch 3cc needles that aren't much bigger and the oil is easier to push. Just an idea that's all. If what your doing is working for you, you don't gotta change it.
I have ran 3cc but only as a glute shot . I won’t do more than 2 cc in the quad and 1 cc in delt or chest. That dhb is 300 mg per cc ? That is gonna be god awful PIP . I used a 100mg/cc last run a that left an uncomfortable pip. I hope the brewer was really good , but the solvents for that are gonna be rough . Good luck bro
Sterile abscess. Run ed or eod pins for less volume and lett worry for abscess.
I don’t like to go bigger than a 25g needle and you simply can’t put enough pressure on the plunger of a 5cc syringe to overcome the tissue resistance with that gauge needle. So when my weekly volume goes above 9cc, I just add another day and go to MWFSu shots. Test/EQ/NPP alone would give you great results in your offseason. I’ve done all of those in some combo or another except for pairing EQ with DHB. Usually when I do DHB I’m loading up on DHT derivatives. test/mast/primo/DHB combo is nice. But that’s more a prep cycle.
Your other option is getting your hands on some 200 mg/ml NPP and the Bold/Test blend that PP sells. That would drastically cut your injection volume down.
Between my oil and water based stuff (NAD/Glutathione/L-Carnitine blend) I’m doing 6cc. But I split that between two 3cc barrels. I’ll be honest, it gets annoying.
@SeeOhShow yea that’s thing, it’s straight up annoying lol. Thank u for input
I remember trying to make a 5ml shot work... I couldnt remember why it didnt but now that you mention it... I think it must have been something to do with the needle size and the pressure.
@Steeltoad777 yea this is why I’m asking before going and buying 4cc+ syringes. Thank u bro
You can fit 3.4 in each 3ml syringe. Fill them.bitches up to the top.
Thats the most I’ve pinned at once. 3.4ml. No issues in my glutes, ventral glutes, or quads.
I put 3ml in my biceps every other day for a cycle. That was getting uncomfortable quickly.
Quads are the most uncomfortable for me, idk why. Just dont have alot of practice with em.
I do like leaving a little drop of air to... aspirate or whatever the word is. But... im never worried about hitting a vein in the glutes.
God damn. 3ml in your bicep? You’re a man’s man. I’m scared to pin my bicep period.
Its not as bad as youd think. I think you do want to do deep in your bicep. I dont recommend it unless ya need options.
3cc in your biceps? Holy moly my boy. This ain't synthol. Lol
When I was at my peak. Arms were the biggest I had em.
Oh man... one time, now that I think about it... I pinned 3ml in my glute, had a friend assist me... unscrewed the barrel, left the syringe in my ass, screwed another barbell on, I think i just had another 1 1/2mls in the second one.
I forget the circumstances. I was definitely running something with PIP. DHB or... it may have just been prop when prop reeeally had pip.
All my injection site muscles were sore AF. I didnt wanna pin any extra areas. I thought that made sense lol. It didnt not work!!
Your wild man haha. I tried spot injecting 1 time with Lr3 in my bicep and never again. Same with my chest I tried 1 time and never again.
@FlemDaddyKush I went to pin my chest once and couldn’t go through it, it mentally feels like ur gonna go through your rib or something even if my chest is def plenty big for it. It’s like psychological
For real, and I was only using a 29g 1/4 in and it was just a weird feeling. It's gotta be straight in our heads cuz we be stabbing ourselves with big needles on the regular in other spots.
Try hitting it with a 1inch slin pin the first time. Theres really nothing to it. It will open up a whole new world for ya lol.
I go towards the top of my chest. About 4 inches directly above the nip.
Im telling ya... for 1ml shots or less... its like finding a whole new glute!
Bro I was using a 29g 1/4 slin pin it hurts and feel weird. I'm a pussy with certain spots.
Same. I did it once and never again! It’s 100% psychological