+ 3 Would you add anything? What would you add?
Hey guys just got my lab work back. Bloods are great 10 weeks post show now.
Wanted to feedback if anyone has anything the recommend to add to this stack. Of course food, quality rest and hard training is going to be the #1 most important thing here to build 10lbs of true size in the next 2 years but wanted to know if anyone has used masteron in their off season as their anabolic as well as an addition of any of the 3 compounds I list below in this post. Thank you
About 1.5-2 years before I prep again.
Stats
5’7
190lbs
of cycles... Cycles? Haven’t heard that name in years…
…This is for life, but want to make a 16-20 week push right now to some off-season gains then I’ll come do to a sports TRT - 300mg test, 3iu hgh
Currently running
700mg test E
700mg mast e
Hgh 6iu
Would you add anything to this. Deca / npp are not really great options for me but I could consider it, it just would be last on my list.
I have these compounds on hand that are at the top of my list to run and these are in no particular order.
Tren Ace/ E. DHB. Anadrol.
Would you add any of these? Where would you add them in? What is your favorite off season cycle besides test and deca…
EQ I don’t really see a ton of value in
Primo - I love primo but it rapes my hair , lowers e2 as well but that’s manageable.
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BysandtrysI really like EQ personally.
Had a much better experience with it compared to Primo.
DHB is worthwhile to expiriment with and I found that it pairs well with EQ
450-600EQ with 250-400 DHB.
Anadrol pulsing for breaking through plateaus as needed.
AK80Similar cycle and exact same build as me (except for being 6'1" 230 so it's harder for me). 600mg Test E, 300 NPP, 300 Masteron and 50mg Anadrol on training days. 5iu at night before bed. Since you don't want to do the NPP, just pulse 50mg of Anadrol. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off for maybe 2 months and see how you like it. 25mg in the morning under the tongue and another 25mg before the gym. Save that Tren for the summer cut. I haven't tried DHB yet, but I've heard guys like it.
I like this idea. Yeah I figure as long as appetite stays in check and I’m on top of liver supports we’ll be golden. Thank you for the feedback
When your cut the dhb is a superior polish. But it didnt add the mass tgat hes looking at. Visual though its awesome
I tried it for 10 days and was loving it but I deemed it was too soon to be on something that some claim to be toxic too close to my post show period so I dropped it but man something was working by the end of that 10 day run.
I really wanna give it a true run but maybe it’s something I plan and get bloods mid cycle with it in
Yeah I would like to see bloods on it. Heard a few things that made me wonder. We gotta remember this hormone hasn't been studied well. Sparta and myself had a good conversation about that.
High five! Health first!
MAHA is looking jacked! RFK is going to choke slam those pharma execs.
Winter mass. 700 test....400npp...300mast e. Yes i run mast often. Mast even to test for me never added size. It hardens nicely. But winter get that glycogen load with full muscle bellies. Get a real bulking stack and as your pix show that your diet and gym is 100% on point.
More HGH? As I’ve been researching & learning from Kurt Havens, Vigorous Steve, & Aaron Burke, Big Paul, Chase Irons and many others… they all say “as much HGH as you can afford.” 10iu ++ is really where you start to see some serious growth on top of the other things you have listed.
anvilThey are correct as are you, these low doses were set around early day high prices and unreliable sourcing. AID patients are the main subject of all studies and if some 150lb AIDs patient, with a weak immune system can handle 18iu a day prescribed by a doctor I know healthy 230 lb body builders can handle it also. Diminished returns ? Has there been a study done on this or just a "few guys have said here on eroids"?? I mean I have taken 10iu a day and it worked way better than 4iu that is not a diminishing return? I am just not sure why people say things? Either say what you have done and why, or state nothing.
Who are you referring to? I'm pretty sure that's their experience. If that's how they feel then that's how they feel. You have your opinion and they have theirs. Ghost has competed in bodybuilding contests and probably knows more about GH than u or I. And I'm pretty sure 10iu would give better results than 4iu so not sure who thinks that. Pretty sure no one here is competing so why would 20iu even be used? Straight foolishness. Y'all can have that
anvilIf that's their experience oh mighty one, let them state so. I know you don't have experience in this subject so it's not additive for you think others see diminishing returns. And now you're reply is you think another member knows more than me about GH. Good for him. You don't have the experience in it. So, if you have an issue summon these people, otherwise I point stands.
So just because you've used say 30 iu that makes you the local GH expert? My statement was I think..as in my opinion. Alot different than saying I know. Like I said your opinion is your opinion. Just like you feel low dosing isn't productive. Everyone is different point blank. What issues are you talking about? I'm stating what I got out of the conversation I had with the guy. I see you assume I don't have experience, yeah just not blasting GH.
anvilVery solid points, I have to back off now because you are threatening me on dms lol. Have a good night little buddy.
C'mon Be mature man. You know damn well no one is threatening you. If I were why would you be calling me lil guy right? U can't be too scared. Umm strange. You're just talking crazy as usual that's all lol. I pay u no attention man... Night
I think with GH at very high doses it's diminished returns...more sides than benefits. Ghost and a few other guys seem to think so. Not sure what is considered high dose by them
10iu wont do a thing without the missing component. It will grow your intestines nicely! But body cant use 10iu without missing component
What do you mean by missing component?
Oh I think I know, the magical carb shuttling component?
Yessir. Its a hazard imo. But they work together at that level. @bigred250
AK80Even without that "dangerous stuff diabetics need that even a kid can get for dirt cheap at the pharmacy without a prescription that is banned on here" for who knows the hell why, I've heard another missing component is IGF-1. But that seems like overkill or just overlap to me.
Hgh when we get blood test is to test for igf1. Peptides can raise hgh but no igf1 conversion so that answers part of the question.
Real igf1 has been said 5k a bottle. I will stick to hgh. Im not that level of wealth. Rich piana covered real igf1 a lot on his usage.
Big hazard. I mentioned and linked something like it and deleted it after because I know that most will never ever need to run it.