posted Mon, 08/07/2023 - 04:08
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+ 1 Could my hgh be bunk?
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The second pic is two baseline tests I got while not using hgh. Hadn't used it at all at that point. The first pic is current blood work, taken 3 hours after IM injection of 2ius's hgh (been on 2ui's daily in the AM from same brand for just over 4 months now). Researched my source well, found them here. I understand that I'm on a super low dose, but shouldn't my level by higher that that?
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LiftLaughLove4 months seems to be enough to feel it at a lower dose like you run. I'd look at the effects first, not bloods and igf. Even at 2ius after 4 months there should be something in the background, at least barely. I'd double it from the start though.
Anyways, you're new to gh and already keep better track than most here so gl with your cycle regardless of what you decide.
Thanks. I thought I've been noticing some differences, but maybe just placebo. I've definitely been guilty of that plenty of times lol.
Hair, skin, nails seem improved. Appetite is up and my digestion seems better. But I also started taking collagen supplements at the same time, as I thought they would compliment each other. And started running primo at about the 2 month mark on the GH.
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Basically what I'd expect considering you are only doing 2ius and your baseline is considerably high from the start. If you were to pin 5-6 ius/day then you would see an increase from your naturally high baseline. Wouldn't say your Gh is bunk though until you increase dose then test again.
Thanks. Do you think the 2ius is doing anything or should I either raise it to 4 or drop it kind of situation?
It's not doing much to be honest and yes, in my opinion either up dose or drop. Your call, but think quick due to the shutdown of natural Gh from negative feedback loop. Running GH is an investment, if you can't or don't want to run for 6month min ..I wouldn't bother, especially since your baseline was naturally on the high side to begin with. It's like having great test numbers as a 25 year old...then choosing to start injecting test at 200mg a week.....shutting down your own production for nothing basically. It's your decision to make in the end....and no judgment whatsoever, just stating my thoughts that you asked for.
Ya thank you, definitely appreciate the advise. If it was you would you up it or drop it?
2iu is just basically a replacement dose, which it seems to be from your bloodwork. Nothing seems out of the ordinary here. I suggest people get baseline bloodwork like you did and see if GH will benefit them. For me 2iu is good because my baseline is around 70 so pinning 2iu brings me close to 200 which is more than double my baseline. For you not so good because your baseline is already naturally higher. For you to get any results out of GH you will need to pin at least 3iu and 4 would be better which would bring it significantly above your baseline. Pinning exogenous GH doesn't add to your natural GH, just like pinning test doesn't add to your natty test, it shuts it down due to negative feedback loop. Now if you were pinning 3-4iu and came back with those numbers then I would be suspect of the GH but for 2iu that looks perfectly fine.
Thanks for the response. I appreciate it. New to GH so learning as much as I can. Now to decide if I want to up the dose...
Either up it or drop completely. Just wasting money pinning 2iu which is basically where your natty levels are.
If it was you, in my situation, would you up it or drop it?
I would up it, since I like using GH, and combine with IGF-LR3. Very expensive long term commitment for the little you get out of but my physique is at the level where every little bit counts now and I need to push the envelope harder just to make little gains. If your physique isn't at the top of your game yet and you are still just looking to build muscle and/or drop fat there are a lot better, cheaper and quicker options out there. If you have the money for it, great , then I would recommend upping it and committing to it long term, there will be some benefit, but don't think you are missing out on some monster gains if you don't use it. I surely wouldn't stick with 2iu in your case since you are just replacing your natty levels and burning up money for no reason.
Right on Mak. Its like a 25 year old with naturally high test pinning 200mg/week...
I run 2iu nords and genos daily for over a year now bro. I honestly wouldn’t expect my Igf to comeback much higher than that. These are therapeutic doses we are taking. Now ramp it to 4 and you might see a bit of a elevation from that. I could be wrong and if someone has higher bloods or seen higher come back on 2iu please share.
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Genos and Nords....I'm with it bro. I like your style, gets pricey after years on, but its prime GH and is unrivaled, nothing compares.
Hey Diesel, have you ran Seros? If so what’s your take? I fuckin love the Genos bro Nords are cool too. It’s like driving a Ferrari or a Focus when it comes to comparing Pharma and Generics. I think Guy Cicternino said that. Only damn thing he said that’s worth a shit lmfao
I love Seros bro. DAY AND NiGHT difference between pharma/generics without a doubt. You run pharma...you absolutely know the deal. Not so easy to obtain legit Seros though, in comparison to Genos and Nords. I used to know HIV patients who would flip their Seros for pennies literally
I’ve never ran Seros. It I figured when I run out of my Genos and Nords or when I got close to I would start running serostim. The price ain’t much different so I won’t be taking to bad a hit like 30iu max. $600 a kit I think is what my coach was telling me.