posted Sun, 01/19/2020 - 06:43
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TRT and smoking
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Yo guys. Been on TRT for 4 months now and still dialing in but things going well.
I havent had a chance to donate blood yet and was looking for natural ways to keep it low (other than reducing dosage, which is 160/week total)
I've read smoking causes a good 2-4 point increase in HCT and was wondering if anyone here has quit and noticed a difference in levels?
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Smoked for years myself in my younger days. I quit and picked it back up over a decade ago. It definitely was not the same feeling from before. Actually felt pretty shitty after a smoke. But my brain still told me I needed another. I was able to stop and never looked back. Not even when I have a few drinks.
I quit two years ago after smoking 10 plus & everything(all markers) improved! QUIT! Your body will thank you for it in more ways than just that.
I'm doing this today with the fiance for support. She also supports my trt through everything. With 4 kids she will let me rest if I crash, watch my needle for aspiration, discuss my theories on too much or too little AI etc. Honestly I'm real lucky in that department having someone to bounce off of is a real game changer.
So we quit together today
I'm gonna post back to keep everyone updated. Wish me luck
What are your test levels at 160mg per week? Stopping smoking will be very beneficial in lowering your HCT and obviously your overall health in general.
Also yeah it's a huge thing if people who don't smoke can have high hct... Only imagine what mines is. I do low intensity incline walks every day and hydrate like hell, supplement only a basic multi, get my omegas from salmon and d3.
It's so hard to quit just due to the routine but it is an addiction and can be broken. If I can fast for 4 days, or quit caffeine cold turkey then I can do this.
At 5 weeks they were 840 on day 4 trough ( pin e5d). I'd assume maybe a tad higher if it was 6 weeks but either way, with a shbg of 26 i think.
Free t was out of range by a smidge.(upper)
My aim is 700-1100 trough. Anything in there Ill be happy with my dose
Manateeswimmer5678I think people are also forgetting the fact that nicotine in the cigarette causes vasoconstriction. Combine that with increased risk of atherosclerosis from altered lipid levels if gear is used irresponsibly and also the increase in demand for blood while training is a recipe for disaster. Also nicotine is a stimulant and that is also not good especially when the body is flooded with exogenous hormones. I like to think of our blood vessels like water hoses. Increase hemoglobin means thicker blood. Narrowing of the water hose means higher pressure. Add that with increase demand for blood is no bueno. Just imagine a water hose bursting...
I have been nicotine free for 1 year and 3 days. My hematocrit hasn’t been an issue at all. I didn’t donate all year and I came in at 46. I was fully expecting 53-56. However, I’ve been drinking a shit ton of water for the last year, so it is a combination of the two.
Did you ever get a test for HCT while smoking then compared to after, assuming both equally hydrated? Studies show it definitely raises it a few points.
Hoping I'm a case like you where hydrating and quitting keep HCT in a good range and I can donate in future for helping others reasons
Molinin302Water is always our friend. +
Molinin302I'll take heat for this I'm sure, I still smoke but not like I used to. After talking to my mom about quitting (yes I'm 44, yes it's mom, but she's a former smoker), it seems after years of long term tobacco usage, quitting abruptly shocks the body and that's when various problems arise. It's full of toxins, nasty stuff, but in my personal experiences there may be something to this. She said there's studies being done, but I can't find them. Mom is retired in Florida these days so...
Ah I see. You think that because you are so used to it quitting can shock the body and end up causing stuff like cancer etc in certain people?
Theory may hold ground but I also think quitting is the best thing possible aslong as you do low intensity cardio etc and eat relatively clean. Then throw in a few fasts to get rid of everything fully and I think you would be fine.
Also invest in an air purifier
Yeah I've smoked for 14 years so it's time. Started at 20. I've vaped before and it was easy to transition but honestly don't believe it's safety profile has been researched long enough and I'm not gonna be a beta tester for whatever long-term problems that causes.
Cold turkey tomorrow. The smoke monster ain't getting to rule me.
Give up the smokes. Really bad habit. I kicked it years ago.
Smoking raises HCT. Was wondering if anyone noticed a good drop in HCT after quitting smoking.
Not sure what your asking here? In no way is smoking beneficial to your health, I smoked for years, haven’t in two years and I’ll never smoke again. Try a vape with lower nicotine is cold turkey isn’t for you.. helped me quit
Idk but smoking can be bad for cholesterol as well as the obvious things. Quit...