posted Mon, 07/29/2013 - 00:50
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Running a cycle while on HRT
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Does anyone have any experience with running a cycle during their HRT? In particular, adding a cycle on top of your prescribed Testopel and/or Androgel.
Thanks in advance for your input and advice.
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I hate having to come off a blast to give a blood sample to my doctor. If you dont want to come off cycle, another way to lower your testosterone for a blood test is to switch over to different esters as your blood test date approaches.
If you are running, for example, 500 mg Test C/week but are prescribed only 100 mg, just drop down to your prescribed dose 3 weeks before sample date. Add daily or every other day injections of Test Prop to make up for the lower Test C, then 5 days before sample switch to Test No Ester and run that until 24 hours before the blood sample is to be drawn. All that will be left in your system when blood is drawn is the prescribed Test C dose, and you can pin the TNE as soon as you get home from the lab and continue your blast.
Has anyone run just Anavar in addition to TRT for a cycle? I know Anavar is usually not recommended as a solo cycle since it shuts you down, but if I'm already on TRT Test dosage, it seems like it would be a decent approach.
It's hard to give an answer when we don't have your stats, goals, etc. There are tons of articles about running Anavar and test together. Post yours stats and goals and we can help out.
I am running eq, mast, and test prop on top of the 200mg test cyp that I'm prescribed for HRT. My doctor sets up appointments in 4 month intervals so I have a good idea of when to start and stop now. In the beginning when I was still trying to get everything timed my test came back pretty high, I think just over 1000. When he asked I told him I had just pinned the night before and he just said that probably explained it. I also have children and he put me on andro gel at first, I complained about it and said I wasn't comfortable with it so I asked to be put on a shot. Thankfully he didn't even blink and wrote me for my first 10ml bottle of good old Watson Test cyp 200. So it's very possible to do as long as you know when your blood tests are going to be and you get the timing down of when to start and stop. Good luck!
Big_smooth--did you get any numbers on the Testopel alone? I've got Test-U I plan to use after my bloodwork at the end of the month, I had an 81 level, doc gave me the gel, but I too have kids (boy / girl) so I'm not too cool with that. Been pinning Test-E every 10-14d till my TU came in.
Do you HCG/HGH?
-CL
Hey Lucas, my testopel came back in the low 600s. I'm on HGH (3 iu daily) and plan to run it year round. My body and system immediately responded... body fat % dropped like a brick from a second-story window. I'm now in the 3rd week of my 16 cycle (running Test-E at 500 / wk, EQ at 400/wk and .5mg Anastrozole every other day). The slow esters are just starting to kick in and my old squeaky joints are beginning to feel well oiled and ready for action (the very reason I went with EQ).
I will drop the Test-E 2.5 weeks before my next blood test to let my levels comeback down.
Big_
Just saw the reply, thanks! I missed it it. You'd say it was the HGH dropped your BF huh? I have to go back to work in Afghanistan--going to be difficult to work all 'issues' on my schedule and location. Pity orals are such crap. I've got a supply of TU (nebido) which I'm injecting every 9-10 weeks, but haven't had an updated bloodtest. Also have the Testogel--I need to look into the pellets.
Good advice about the not running a blood test while on cycle. Fortunately, my doc already gave me the paper work to go in on my own before my next visit in a few weeks. So I plan to get the blood work done a day or two before I start my cycle.
Too funny @Qtrips... he'd definitely fall out if my T results came back 4000, especially since my initial Low T result came in at 75 (ouch!) which is why he started me on my HRT. I've been 100mgs cyp / week for about 3 years before they switched me to the (maximum) Testopel pellets. Still not enough T to build and retain muscle.
QtripsWhat were your levels on 100mg a week?
My levels are generally between 400 and 600 since I started HRT. My doc experimented once and got my levels up around 900 and I felt great. Alert, energetic, everything was functioning below the waist and my workouts were fantastic. The feeling lasted for a few days, but returned to the dulldrums once the juice had faded. He said he didn't feel comfortable to consistently have my juice that high.
QtripsWhy that happened is this: there is an initial jump in dopamine due to having testosterone low for so long. It's like a drug to your body, but tolerance develops. My "high" lasted for a full month, then gone...That's when I realized I had other problems than just T. Most guys want to hop on TRT without getting their thyroid/iron/adrenals in check first! Those three are so important. For instance, they all deal with metabolism, and having a healthy thyroid--due to having healthy adrenals and iron panel--increases dopamine! Do you have thyroid labs, or iron or adrenal labs?
make sure your doctor doesn't order any blood tests during your cycle. If your testosterone come in super high he will likely lower your dose
Vewiwhen you go into the doc just say your under the weather and don't feel good describe flue like symptoms no blood test..
QtripsLol, The doc sees his T come back at 4000 on only 100 mg a week. jaw drops
it will likely just show up as >1500 which means he will lower to 75mg per week.. be careful lol
Thanks guys, I thought it should be ok, I just wanted to hear it from someone that's gone through it. I appreciate the feedback.
QtripsCommence pinning!
Vewiyou will have nor problem doing this
QtripsYup, on right now. Best decision I've made in a long time. Any specific questions?