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Looking for info. on 2nd cycle...

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Just finished my first cycle about 3 months ago.
Test prop EOD 400mg week with amidex 1mg EOD
PCT with Clomid and Nolavdex.
Starting weight was 165lbs, diet 2500 cal.
50% protein, 30% fats, 20% carbs.
I'm 48 years old 5'7" tall about 15% BF.
Been working out for 3 years hard before 1st cycle.
Blood work is all normal. Going in a couple weeks for Test. blood work.
I jumped up to 195lbs in 12 weeks. Since I've dropped
down to 172lbs with 2000 cal. diet 50/30/20.

Goal is to gain some mass this next cycle but not to
crazy on compounding gear just yet.

What are your suggestions on my 2nd cycle?

Thanks,
S3

Freeze's picture

when you had bloods done what was your natty test level? AT your age its very important to keep it up or you will lose everything from your cycles no matter how hard you try. Test E for sure as a second cycle, 12 weeks 500wk. Lots of water and an AI like Adex or Aromasin will keep Estro down. You dont mention what your long term goals are? That helps with advice.

coronalight's picture

If your diet and training are on point then you should be able to pack.on good size with test only still. Diet is key though. if you don't give your body what it needs to grow then it can't.

nerdmuscles's picture

I Think a more realistic cycle should just be a Test E only cycle, 12 week with a normal Nolva Clomid pct. Run an AI starting around week 3 - 4 and lasting the entire cycle up till pct starts. If you want to add something test prop is a good idea, you can do a prop kicker, 100mg eod for the first 4 weeks. That is a pretty standard second cycle. However you will need to make sure you are getting in more cals per day, as well as 2.2g of protein per lbs. There is no need to be stacking compounds this early in your cycle career. Hope this helps.

Pyelnats's picture

Thanks for the advice, I think I'll do just what you said. Week 1-4 test p for 100mg EOD Weeks 1-12 Test E 400-500mg week. I haven't eaten 3000 calories a day for a long time, that going to be the hard part, that and buying more clothes! Thanks again.
S3

dodgeman's picture

Test and deca great for quick size.
Test e 500 ew 1-14
Deca 1-12 300 m and Thursday pin

Or an oral along with test
Dbol 4 weeks 30 to 50mg ed
Test e 500 ew
Usual AI and pct
Up your caloric intake to about 3000. Hard to keep good gains when your calories are that low.

Hench's picture

Since your new to the game I would suggest a Test E cycle only. Curious as to why you went with prop 1st? I think a couple of test only cycles are good before adding compounds which you stated you were wanting to ease into.

Pyelnats's picture

Went with Test Prop because of low water retension. I was scared as hell and I thought that would be a milder Test to run.

Hench's picture

I gotcha bro. I'd really think about running the enanthate version before adding other compounds.