posted Sat, 04/28/2012 - 12:15
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estrogen levels
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At end of last cycle (test e 750mg,eq 600mg and deca 300-400 per week)i had blood work done my Doc was concerened about estrogen level it was at 205 pg/ml.Was wondering what kind of levels others had/have on cycle.Are these abnormaly high numbers? I ran adex at .5 eod kinda got me questioning the supplier (supposedly pharm grade)maybe these are normal on cycle numbers dont know
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I gauge my estrogen level and time to test based off the size of my nips. My nips aren't wired so I don't like anyone touching em when I cycle test I nearly look like a gorilla ok time to get blood work. If I cry on a commercial it's time. To back off the t a bit.
mr127superdeei took purchase petides liquid aromasin i felt like i was dying but it knocked my estro down to 23
If you would have kept that between 15-40 (your estrogen) the results of your cycle would have been vastly different. I imagine your body fat was higher than you would have liked after. Sounds like you need a new adex source brother, better yet have your doc give you a script.
jasonhthanks yea ill get script got 3 months till next apointment but maybe ill push it up was trying to save money and had heard so much good about ADC. Doc was asking me if i was bitchy cause estrogen was off charts! hes a funny guy at least im lucky enough to have a doc i can talk openly about cycles with hes a gym rat 2 and just wants me to stay safe and healthy
tread-mAs they say in espanyola land....el fako or bunko de bullshito! Many ways to control estrogen and drinking tons of water, cutting salt way down in your diet with your AI should have you well below that number. With estrogen high. binders are also high robbing up all your test. You have to control this through knowledge and proper proactive protocols.
jasonhThanks! ill be looking for a different adex supplier at least i know im not gyno prone. What is a good number to be at Doc said 40? India pharma grade buyer beware!
If you've ever been to India, you would really understand why pharma grade in India would be bad bathtub brew here. The cties are filthy and the government corrupt. Any quality monitoring by the government would just be a joke, with officials paid off for a couple of dollars.
I'd take a chance on just about any domestic UGL over Indian pharma.
You mean China suppliers, because that's were it all comes from. I only trust pharmacy grade for pct now days.
Sometimes just luck of the draw. Others have already mentioned ADC which as far as I am aware is Indian and selling Indian brands for the most part. I have also had gear from there and no problems. When it comes down to it though luck shouldnt be coming into it and the only way to be sure is to get regular bloods done.
X2 on blood work, I get mine done every 2 months!
Nice buddy. On and off cycle so around 4 times a year for me.
jasonhyea going to maybe try some researce chem sources, getting tired of being ripped off overseas first china and there fake hgh know india and there crap (my hcg is highly suspect 2) at least if its fake money will stay in america
Dude, I only get Exemestane from ADC and my estrogen was <15 last test with 25mg 2 times a week. I ended up cuting it back to 12.5mg 2 times a week.
That's all I use is ADC! Also why you using adex? Adex is junk in my opinion
drvazbro get real....if you know anything bout AI you know adex is not junk.
In my opinion it is junk. Who wants to risk estrogen rebound? Not me
If you reduce a hormone either test or estrogen via exogenous source. The addition or depletion by a compound is reboundable by the same degree. Regardless of which chemical adex or aro, both suppress, in turn both rebound. However the profound effects of rebound being more of one over another is strictly bro science. They are both equal good and bad, and it's usage is up to the user.
Not true, Exemestane is an irreversible inhibitor, adex and letro are not.
adex and letro will detach from aromatase enzyme after use is stopped. Which causes a spike in estro because all the additional enzymes.
The point here is that if you use aro or adex and completely shut your estorgen down. Then you discontinue use of either product you estrogen will "rebound" stimulate it self back into production (the rate of stimulation is different person to person). The paths of reponse may be different, but there is no medical documentation to prove which produces a more profound "rebound". In fact if in breast cancer cases where is estrogen is the issue the use of adex would not be prescribed, you would have 100% of all breast cancer people taking aro and adex would be wiped out.
My reference are below (government, company, and encylopedia) none of which state a profound rebound effect from either. Please show me your references.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000982/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21717449/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastrozole#section_4
http://www.arimidex.com/#isi
A better question is why 90% of all doctors prescribe adex for trt over aro? Why is that, if in fact aro is superior? Research is the key.
I want to switch my AIs. I have to take a full milligram of adex everyday to stay within normal limits of estrogen. I am only running 200mgs of test cyp a week too. My nips. let me know when I start to creep up.
i agree with the estrogen rebound, thats why i stick with aromasin
jasonhyea im using same supplier, maybe ill give the exemestane a try thanks. what is a good estrogen number to hold at?
35-50, I use there Xstane and it is obviously very potent.
My estrogen was over 200 on half a gram of test a week, with some bunk adex in there.