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Effect of EQ on total test levels

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Ok, what effect on Total T levels might EQ cause? Is the EQ Bold detected as test, and therefore cause a higher lab result?

Shreddd's picture

Some heated comments here but educational all the same. Good read brothers.

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@Ak_tundra

You can privately test so youre positive when seeing your primary that everythings ok

https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/when-to-test-bloods

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Bold will not be detected as Test when getting blood work.

Boldenone added into a testosterone only stack will lead to an increase in free testosterone because Bold is a substrate for the same enzymes as Testosterone. Not more total, more free, which does not necessarily mean more gainz. This is because Bold is a derivative of testosterone.

That being said Bold is IMO the worst anabolic available and a poor choice for any cycle, no one has ever been able to successfully argue for its use with me and I always have left that debate open. Masteron/Primo or even more test wins out in every scenario.

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dwayne44's picture

Yea I remember Bold topic awhile back and that was my conclusion as well. Too many sides vs less gains is what I got from our conversation, however some swear it's a top anabolic, pro's included. Anyone feel free to start a comprehensive post aguing why Bold is a top anabolic. Lol I need some convincing

eighty7's picture

EQ can give people some pretty bad anxiety. Everyone is different but I know it can be terrible for some people.

dwayne44's picture

That's exactly why I don't mess with it. I considered it because of my appetite issues but man I like to feel good on cycle.

HanginLow's picture

https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/evidence-of-renal-tox...

I go into the proposed mechanism in this post. A conversion to estrone instead of estradiol possibly inducing the anxiety.

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eighty7's picture

Bro science says when taking EQ do high reps and it combats the anxiety. By the way I bench 45 because I only count the bar.

dwayne44's picture

Have u tried EQ before and if so did you get anxiety?

eighty7's picture

Yes I've use it many times in the past. It didn't give me anxiety all the time just the last couple of times I used it.

dwayne44's picture

Man I'm noticing that you and everyone else, including Makwa and Swolder84 saying that the last time y'all used EQ it gave you all bad anxiety. I wonder if it's a bad batch or what? They all said when used for cycles before they didn't have anxiety.

Makwa's picture

Probably age related. Never had issues when I ran it in my younger days

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Wouldn't you agree buddy that if he's after strength to go for NPP or Deca over EQ? I know NPP is not as good as Tren but its more than halfway there. Sure EQ may give a slightly better visual effect and more veins partly due to increase in BP and RBC but anabolic wise its not that great.

I also think with the anxiety issue once you know it generates it you become much more aware of it once it starts to creep in rather than just kinda ignoring it.

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Pure going for strength....anavar was a safer method and imo vlose to tren in busting plateaus. Crappy part is kills appetite which is good on clean eats. Tren and strength comes on really fast. Recovery between sets too.

As stated....npp does a nice cycle. Deca...not even impressed with it. Maybe because npp is faster kick in or because id have to go above 600 deca just to get what i have going at 400npp? I would take npp over deca.

Eq...ya....endurance and strength for me is sweet. Like it or not theres folks that are NON RESPONDERS in any chem. Its not for everyone. But shit....5ft midget repping 4 wheels on a basic eq run....whos to complain? Deca and 370 for 15 is hard to hit. Eq 390 x 16 was a cakewalk.

Anyone running gear knows their own body. Weird or not theres not a 1 chem fits all. Or we'd just post 1fits all cycles. So why ask a drug dealer what works? Drug dealer gonba post up a 4gram cycle and say thank you for the cash. You should know your own gear likes by now

eighty7's picture

390lbs for 16 reps doing what exercise?

dwayne44's picture

A standard big barbell plate is 45 pounds. And 99% of folks count the bar, cause after all the weights are on the bar. Lol don't know where all this other stuff is coming from. I'm done with it

Rustyhooker's picture

Decline press. Old news.

eighty7's picture

Did you do this on a machine?

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On a machine?

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Rustyhooker's picture

Look at me...im a trainer and ifbb....

eighty7's picture

Yes

HanginLow's picture

I saw an forum about that, I guess it's the increased RBCs? Not having a place to go, but if you get a good pump the blood goes to the muscle and therefore reduces the anxiety and pressure in the body. Guru Rusty taught me that one, strong and wise that one.

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Rustyhooker's picture

I thought you were a GURU here on status. Week 8 donate blood and POOF cured.....

Wheres your guru tag? Ask bfg...get one stat

HanginLow's picture

When you are so dumb you can not even identify sarcasm.

When did you know you were autistic?

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Rustyhooker's picture

Hooked you again into a reply though.

Hows the math looking since youre autistic? 90x 4.....its tricky, i know

HanginLow's picture

everyone already saw dude you aren't smart by trying to push the comments lower

As obese as you are autistic, go do some cardio

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Rustyhooker's picture

I ran a cardio train on your fat mommas ass. She owes me fifty cents. And she said i wasnt too heavy as she rimmed me. Go figure

HanginLow's picture

Yeah man I need some convincing as well. The only thing people can say is anecdotal evidence of how it works for them but my follow-up question is, have you tried the same stack with EQ replaced with either testosterone, masteron or primo. The answer is almost always no. I have noticed it's use die down though as people realize how ineffective it is.

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Rustyhooker's picture

I have. And eq was superior to test mast combo. Some folks are just non responders or it doesnt work for you directly.

Odd scenario.....deca on 3+ cyles by several top brands does nothing at all for me. Even on a head to head with eq. Yet....dose for dose i can crush it with npp. Drol....nothing whatsoever. Anavar and its boosting strength close to tren. Probably same reasoning in hospital a pain manager will work on switching meds til lowest dose gives greatest relief. And thats a patient by patient case load.

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Now I could understand if you responded to bold and not nandrolone at all. Some folks are like that, but you would think that if you responded to npp so well then nandrolone with an added Decanoate ester should be effective for you as well. First time I've heard that about nandrolone response selectivity. Honestly that's like someone responding to Test prop but not test c or e. We are different but that's strange man. And 405 for 20 on bench press is not bad. You should be way past 500.

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Yessir is seems backwards and redundant. I ran npp a few times as its faster in and out to see if i get any issues on blood tests. Did great! Common sense would then suggest less pins and less oil with deca. Not impressed at all. Tried another famous brand as things do change on alleged quality....not impressive at all. Chose npp on cutter at 850 with low test....kicked ass. Gained strength....lost a shitton of....shit. Tried deca versus npp many times and for me npp wins hands down.

Ran npp eq sust as i sent you tge full forum. Loved it! Again....switch to deca test eq.....nope. week 10 tossed deca in trash and pounded npp....cycle full tilt. And yes, chemically the ester is the only difference. But i get more Kapow off npp than deca hands down.

4 plates is 320....but hitting 400 x 12 easy literally was scarey to me. Old people dont heal fast. So i stick to pyramids so im beat tired before i get tempted

dwayne44's picture

You mean 225 right?...with bar? 4 plates total with bar

dwayne44's picture

@Rustyhooker let's have math class. I need clarification. I also need a tutor

Rustyhooker's picture

Me too on most days. Added coffe sometimes helps. Lol!

I just came up you look at plates per side unless going for max. Im too old to max out and risk it all.

1plate....90.....each side
4 x 90....360....20reps then add small plates.

Guy i lift with i cant keep up with but he stack 5 plates for flat and incline. Motivation af right there. He pushes 12 easy...6 sets..

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Rustyhooker's picture

Hahaha..yes!

HanginLow's picture

Never seen someone so dumb they don't know when they're being insulted

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L o fucking L

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HanginLow's picture

Lololol you said 320, also in what universe do you not count the bar lololol

So really you benched 225 for 12 reps lolol advanced cycle master right there

Just admit you are actually a pink badge and I'll leave you alone

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Rustyhooker's picture

360 is still 360 genius. 45x2x4....your math is got me lmao! How you train otherr rs but cant add?
45+45+45+45.............45+45+45+45
4 plates....smdh...hahahaha

At my height reppin 20....why count the bar. Thats redundant. Obviously i didnt hold the plates with my hands.

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Absolutely pathetic attempt to make me look confused, You said 320 below, now trying to say 380, "and I do not count the bar" lolol done with your clown ass pink badge, it is a disservice to this site you have rank you do with as little knowledge you have. Go drink and stew.

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Rustyhooker's picture

I know. Ego buster for the big guy. But its life. Many folks your age cant count

HanginLow's picture

YAWN

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Thats what your husband says too....

HanginLow's picture

Rustys Pro cycles and advice

EQ for strength
Ditch the deca which doesnt work for NPP which is different
4 plates for 20 is actually 320 for 12.
400 donut holes per week split AM and post workout

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Rustyhooker's picture

Challenged by math or that you cant push those numbers? Must hurt when a knee high midget throws em.

HanginLow's picture

Lololol you haven't even clarified what you lifted or how many times or what exercise

Pink badge, I said it a long time ago and my gut was right. Beginner level physique and knowledge.

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dwayne44's picture

4 PLATE GATE

HanginLow's picture

LOLOLOLOL EROIDS CONTROVERSY 4 PLATE GATE IM DYING

just trying to get some entertainment around here, been quiet LOL

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