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Anyone know a cheap supplier for legit Aromasin/Exemestane, preferably domestic if possible?
I've tried both iron dragon and RUI. Both good products, but ID is too expensive, and rui takes far too long to get here, last time it took them 4 days just to get it out of their facility.
All Day Chemist exemestane is apparently BUNK so I'm not even going to bother with them.
im not sure on the quality but kalpa pharmaceuticals stuff is cheap and ive seen veyron pharma arimidex for around $1 a pill... but you probably get what you pay for.
wondering if anyone has tried kalpa aromaxyl (exemestane)or arimixyl (anastrozole), and if theyre any good?
I have used the arimixyl, worked fine.
I've got some aromaxyl from kalpa. I'll give it a go and report back
Just wondering but where did you see that the exemestane at all day chemist was bunk? I heard from a few guys that it was good.
i would have assumed if the all day chemist stuff (or any other generic brand) is sold in australian pharmacies that it has to by law meet the same standards as the brand name medicines.
Technically, you should be able to order some in legally from a legit online pharmacy in America/UK/Canada.
you still have to fax them the script before they will sent it out...
Some online pharmacies in Canada etc don't need scripts.
Ive had that happen before, customs send you a letter asking for a script and id etc. I think they just like picking on me.
Ive got a filing cabinet of letters from them.... Im pretty sure they hate me too haha
True.... but if it gets stopped by our customs without a copy of the script it will be seized and youl have 30 days to produce one
ive had this problem ordering my custom "donkey size" condoms haha
I think you need an import license to bring in that much rubber
hahaha, i just use garbage bags now
you could just stop rooting your donkey!!!!!
Haha burn... il pay that one
yay i didn't get ripped of
i will donate some money to this website they deserve it.
good stuff mate and enjoy. +3 to put you back on par
Thanks mate!
gday to poo and crew....whats news??? think im gonna buy some of this liv52 ds stuff.
Hawthorn berry and celery seed extract is a support sup for the heart, decreases blood pressure and other goodies for the heart.
Milk Thistle is also a good option to protect the liver, I used it with Liv52, It might seem like overkill but better be safe then stuff up liver.
Lets not forget to add some saw palmetto as well to protect the little walnut while on.
Where is everyone getting this liv52 stuff
You can get it in Aus on ebay, about $17 for 2 bottles. Just type Liv52 in the ebay search bar.
Yeah rekon ill grab some too, sounds like its worth its weight.
Ive got a liver for sale if your keen...
Low miles, shit condition, 1 owner haha
hahahah!
Whats everyones view on so called "liver supps"?
When using orals I never use them, I just cant get my head around how they are supposed to work? I only asked because I got a price on a bunch of Liv52 products.. and to be honest, Ide rather just buy another bottle anadrol haha.
I get bloods done every 6 weeks (between my 4 on 4 off orals), Ive had slightly elevated liver enzymes... And Ide like to keep in check, but it could be from all the crap I eat too, not just orals?
If people have had good success with things like liv52 Il gladly buy em.. but it just seems like abit of hippy crap to me at the moment
I think if it's cheap why not use it, best to be safe I guess!!
2 bottles of 100 liv52s are about $25 from memory (not too many local retailers stock them though), and they seem to get good reviews everywhere . it was probably called a liver for a reason, so any help you can give it while its working hard on the orals cant be a bad thing. i tend to be overly cautious though.
perhaps were all sissys worrying about nothing, arnie used a 26 week dbol primo and deca cycle. he had never even heard of estrogen control. his pct was to start again.
haha arnie was a "man", busted his arse and did what he had to do..
Now hes going down in history as the greatest BB of all time.
(besides brain!)
I know for a fact that the whole liver toxicity from orals has been blown outa proportion over the years. Theres ass loads of med journals out there stating that it takes several week of stress to the liver, to even begin raising liver enzymes, and by the time that starts, the orals are running outa legs anyway, so you cease them! But im gona add liv52 anyway, Itl be the first healthy thing Ive done this year haha.
I also found an med journal (between surfing for porn), stating that liv52 was trialed and deemed successful for assisting people recovering from liver disease.... I couldnt find much on milk thistle? except "may assist"?
Milk thistle tabs stink like a turkish wrestlers armpits anyway.
Hope this makes sense... Ive been up all night doing poofinger things haha
The general consensus is that they work. Interestingly my wife has a chronic liver condition and since taking milk thistle her results are way way better. For the few bucks LIV52 costs Id say its worth it.
Mate doing 4 cycles a year can I assume you dont subscribe to the time on +pct = time off theory?
What bloods in particular let you know its safe to hit another cycle?
oops... full liver panel, RBC, and a quick piss test
I dont believe in equal time on/time off either mate.
The way I see it, Im never gona stop training.. so why come off and put your body through pct? and have your weight yoyo every 12 weeks? Im on 250mg test/week as a base, so If i dont train or cycle i know Im not gona start losing size (insulin helps too).
I take 50mg clomid EOD as advised by the doc, so if I ever come off recovery is much easier, my balls stay the same size too.
This is a pretty stupid way for a non-competitor to use steroids... I know what I do isnt healthy, and it will bite me on the arse later down the track. But Ive made the informed choice to do it like this..
I see an endo every 6 weeks too, but deca and test have years of research behind them, we know there long term effects ect
And taking exogenous insulin DOESNT cause you to become a type 1 diabetic, think about it.. You smash 10,000 cals a day, and your pancreas struggles to keep up with that, I decided to use lantus/novorapid years ago, because it takes the strain off ya pancreas!!
Constant exposure to high GI carbs will lead to diabetes ect (and fat).
bit of a rant there?? enough redbull for me!
Mate do you take HCG as well as the clomid for recovery? Could the clomid be used like this instead of HCG?
I just use them both.. works everytime! ;)
when i do cycle.. (on trt atm)
Ide run:
1g test/week
1g deca/week
40mg DBOL daily 4 weeks on/4 off
Whole cycle runs for 16 - 30 weeks, or until ive had enough, the actual week I stop varies, basically when I feel like crap, get sick of eating, I stop.
Blood test is 2 weeks after first run of orals, if theres no alarm bells, then I jump back on in 2 weeks. My liver enzymes are always slightly elevated though?, my fault, but its hard to nail the culprit? The doc says its borderline so im gona start with liv52, better diet, and re-think some of my bipolar meds.
This is my current bipolar meds (very annoying to change):
Risperidone injection every 5 weeks (equal to 4mg daily)
Prozac 40mg ED
Epilim 1000mg ED
Mirtazapine 45mg ED
Xanax 2mg as needed
Epilim is the only one known to stress the liver.... But the othe crap cant be helping haha
Im buying shares in pfitzer haha
All those meds and they still cant get you sane!!! why xanax??? to sedate the beast???
haha. Xanax is for when I cant sleep. I only take it maybe once a fortnight
Yeah thats a solid amount of meds, and would be hard to know which are stressing the liver.
I would certainly run some liver support and see if it has a positive effect on bloods when you next get tested.
Good luck buddy
Either way.. orals are out till its under wraps...
Ive already begun fashioning a new "prosthetic" liver out of a coke can and a whistle... should work good haha
Ive only ever used blackmores milk thistle, seems to have done the job.
but my liver doesnt have a six pack like yours haha
I think they're worth it. You can get away with it probably if you're doing short courses of orals only but the problem is your liver is also put under a lot of stress from otc drugs, ai's/serms, drinking, foods you may eat etc. All that is highly toxic for the liver so supplementing with something like liv52 will help detoxify it. If you already have elevated liver enzymes then I definitely would be looking to at least protect my liver with something so it doesn't get out of control. It's not like their expensive I bought 4 bottles of liv52 double strength for like 10 buks on ebay. Cliche but better to be safe then sorry.
Cheers brother, I check em out!
Garrghh propionate peg leg.
haha... try jabbing your pecs if you get smashed by prop.
Or do what I do....
1- "acquire" a few 1ml vials of lidocaine...
2- Add 1ml of lidocaine to 10ml of prop....
3- TAADAA!!!! Painless prop!
To acquire lidocaine....
Dentists, hospital, GP, radiology (where they do cortisone injections.)...
They all have a draw with X amount in them for performing minor surgery...
-flirt with the nurse (male or female)
-ask for a few (it works)
-just take a bunch when they leave the room (fill ya pockets)
Lidocaine isnt a restricted drug, I raid the radiologist every time i go, I just asked for some and the tidy young nurse (female!) gave me heaps.
It looks like the 1ml amps of winny or test suspension by the way, comes in 1ml and 2ml single use vials also.