Way to much drugs for a guy that does not COMPETE
I'll make this real quick, most of us work for a living and can't read long ass posts.
Any how, if you know me then you know I don't approve of kids or just regular guys using some of these drugs. Unless you COMPETE, make a living doing it, and can afford the right care, some of this shit will kill ya. Here's my question, is it just me or is this shit out of control?
There's a young guy at my gym (nice guy) but I can look at em and tell this dude is taking all kinds of shit. I shit you not this dude smells like a gas pump!! I mean damn, he don't look any more impressive then I do.
Isn't there a point where ya say to yourself well, I guess I have to come down to earth and come to terms, "I just don't have the genetics to look like one of those monsters". For fuck sake your killing your self. I'm pretty happy with looking better and being stronger then my neighbor but hey, in the great scheme of things what the fuck do I know?
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I was given a way to look at gear use that made sense to me and probably would to any beginner. Its like the first time you smoked weed. You do not need but the tiniest amount to feel the effects. Sure you could take more, but why. You do not need it.
There is only so much muscle you can gain first cycle. If all you need is 500mg of test to do that, why take more. You do not need it. And unlike pot, steroids can negatively impact your health if you do not know what you're doing, especially certain compounds. Unfortunately, most people do not attempt to learn about proper gear use until after they begin taking them, myself included. I did not join until Week 5. I am grateful to have found this site when I did.
I think we need to stress proper diet on gear with examples more on site. I was shocked at the amount of food I needed.
proper diet plus 1 my man , 60% diet 35% gym 5% gear food is the most anabolic thing.
bigwillyI fear the use of these drugs will only get worse. I have no problem at all with grown responsible guys using these drugs in moderation. lifting is in my blood, iv been a plate junkie for a long time. how ever im 39 years old and do not use these drugs year round. I do lift with out these drugs for half the year and by no means do score or get these drugs for people I don't think should use them. I think young guys are going down a road with all these high dosed compounds in an attempt to (fit in). I really do think in this country we need better public awhereness and education programs for kids or young guys playing with these drugs. just like with boos and smokes if you make people awhere and educate them about the shit there less likely to hurt them selves.at least that's the idea. I didn't mention this but I have 17 year old son who I fear may one day deside hed like to be muscular. im 100% certain hes to lazy to build muscle the way I did. I pray to god he don't wind up at 22 years old taking test or god knows what else. yes im a good dad but be real guys, being a good parent don't go far in this world we live in. the pressures are to much for these young guys. so I ask again, what position do we take when we know people we like or love are playing fire ?????????
bigwillymy thing gang was, what position do we take with these people? do we take the well, it don't effect me so fuck them stance or maybe try to talk some sence into these idiots?
Well the problem with your argument is that if you yourself are running gear you don't have a leg to stand on when telling someone they shouldn't be..... you could try and talk them down dosage wise but at the end of the day every man is given a choice and it is theirs 2 make just find a good way 2 give them a heads up if you are truly that concerned
jzagYou bring up a good question. I remember when I was younger a kid dying from overuse. He was a year younger than me. I think I was about 19 when it happened.
bigwillyThey need better education and more grown men that give a fuck to get involved.
jzagYep. There was no eroids when I was first starting out. So looking on the bright side, at least there is a site like this now that can educate the youngsters. Maybe that might be the best advise you can give this kid at your gym. Simply "hey, you should check out this website called eroids". Then he could come here and get schooled by the vets.
bigwillyWell that would also give them unlimited access to poison they shouldn't be fucking with.lol this really is a tuff battle.guys are skipping the hard work and sweat and jumping right to drugs. He'll i could squat well over 400 lbs be for I even knew what test came in. Now, I spent many years in prison so I don't deserve an award for that because I didn't have access to these drugs but I am lucky enough to know the rewards ya get from hard work. And natural gains are for more satisfying then tren gains.thats what we need to push on these young guys.
I'm curious what your definition of way too much drugs is. That is a very subjective term. What is way too much to you may be barely anything to him, everyone reacts differently and holds different tolerances, especially those who stay on longer. A lot of guys could care less about competing, just want to look their best. I don't see why you're so concerned with his steroid use (unless he's walking around telling everyone he's a future ifbb pro).
bigwillymy definition of to much drugs is when you smell like a walking vial of trenbolone and at 37 years old and 180 lbs id say that's to much
Lmao. Fair enough.
bigwillyLol you'd agree on that.hahahahaha
AnonYeah I get yah I don't run high dose anything never have never will to many health issues in the long term people would be surprised on how little test you need or any other AAS to make gains if you have the proper nutritional plan and enough rest and recuperation together with a solid iron lifting game.
But unfortunately I don't have time for all that at the moment running 2 jobs to get my life out of debt but im with yah Bro.
I think sometimes people are full of shit. At least I hope they are not really pinning what they say they are. It's a miracle we do not hear about people dropping dead.
Oh I am sure people have died they don't do news stories about every tom dick and harry on the news tho...anything in excess kills
bigwillyyep
A good Moto to have is "moderation in all things."
What's up big Willy but unfortunately to your point there's no helping or fixing stupid. There's a dude at my gym that's been running tren for over a year straight. His training partner got a big mouth and always saying his buddy dumb running tren for so long but the funny thing is this dude never comes off cycle either and has been running orals non-stop during that time lol.
I run some serious stacks as the guys in the advanced section know......... but i know young guys that have zero inclination to ever compete because they cannot do the "eating" part that real bodybuilding demands........... anyways what i was getting at is i know for a fact they are running double maybe triple sometimes the amounts i use............ Madness!! who knows what they are thinking but it dont stress me bro... i dont give a fk if they die or not as long as they stay out my face and dont push shit in my gyms everything is cool.
bigwillything is vike, I like this fella. hes a real good guy. hes simply don't have the body or genetics to get what hes after but what he dose have are very wealthy parents and a limitless budget !!! if the guy wer a dick head I wouldn't care.
ahh forgive me brother Vike, but I beg to differ. you do care bro, I can't count how many times you've jumped out there trying to save some dumb ass kid from fucking up his life forever. hard not to get jaded tho. I had a boy tell me to mind my own business and say who the hell asked you anyway awhile back after this motard posted that he was looking to run 3 orals with 2 injectable compounds for his second cycle. on the other hand I was successful in talking a guy out of using a gram of test for a first cycle and to research, learn all he could about estrogen control before he started, in the end he was grateful, and it reminded me to keep putting it out there cuz maybe one will take the bait brother.
I guess some people has the money to buy & use them for recreational purposes like the vast majority of us here. But the "limit" varies from person to person. Like my big brother Gothic told me the other day, "that is his choice"
AnonFuxk me Bro I can hardly afford test right now times are hard the shrapnel I'm using (pocket change) is to buy peanuts from my corner shop, anyways time for me to get up the apple and pears before I end up brown bread before my time .
I know a guy to yet compete in bodybuilding doing 1400 mg of tren ace. 200mg ed. 36units of inislin and on top of all the other drugs. Im assuming a fuck ton of test. But those are the two I know for sure. More drugs helps but if you dont got it then you dont got it. The dude does not look impressive at all on top of the fact he uses a ridiculous ungod like amount of gear. The point is drugs will get you only so far.
Fuckin hell, 1400mg of Tren Ace and shit ton of Test, fuck thats crazy. Im surprised he aint locked up for going psychotic on that Tren dosage.
jesus that makes my chest hurt lol
He says he can never breathe. I don't see the point
Lol you don't know what he's doing or what he's taking, but he is killing himself? I know what you mean about guys running mad gear and not even looking good though.
bigwillyI know to the ml what hes taking. but I wouldn't need to to know its to much.
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If you two do not share the same last name or genetic material you have not right to even give a shit what another man does.
With all respect the man has his own choices 2 make If thats what he wants to do then It is what it Is...Because At the end of the day its like one coke ahead getting upset that a dude they know snorts a gram and all they do is snort 3-4 lines....LOL bad analogy i know....what I am getting at is let the man do him and you do you =)