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1980 Olympia - What did they run?
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It was the year big Arnie made his comeback!
Probably one of the most controversial Mr Olympia's! I just watched "The Comeback"
Arnold was off his normal early 70's mass, but didn't look that bad!
"The Comeback Movie link"
https://youtu.be/DgHQHLAepMg
Do you guys think he should have won?
I wonder what his cycle was in 1980 contest prep!
Can anyone guess what they think he & the competition were running gear wise?
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Here is the full pre judging all contestants, posing rounds top 10, & finals!
https://youtu.be/kKgcX40Ddzo
Only 2 or 3 guys had minor visable gyno out of like 15 contestants! Roger Walker, Boyer Coe & a guy from England named Tony Emmott
They cut out the final calling placings for 5th thru 1st! Probably too many boo's like 1981
Story goes Zane grab his 3rd place trophy & threw it against the wall while walking offstage! Lol
1.) Arnold
2.) Chris Dickerson
3.) Zane
4.) Boyer Coe
5.) Mentzer
6.) Roger Walker
7) Roy Calender
Wiki rundown of event:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Mr._Olympia
They RAN A LOT OF PROMOS FRom EROIDS! DUHHHHH
Some of the dosages listed for that time were highly exaggerated. Sure some guys did use boatload dosages but the majority didn't at that time. Dbol, Primo, Test, Deca were the staples for many.
Do you have any idea of what the higher level powerlifters are running nowadays mate? If you do I'd be extremely interested to know in PM when you have 5 minutes buddy :-))
I've heard of some very high doses of Anadrol, cheque drops(day of meet), & snorting Halotestin in the hardcore circles!
Explain to me how they run high anadrol mate - how do they get round the big increase in BP and lethargy from it? Some of them must have these issues that don't tolerate it well but still want the strength gains from it ....
Some guys would take strong stimulants such as amphetamines.
I wouldn't know & can't even say the dose on here! It's crazy, but this link touches on the subject lightly your interested in!
http://musculardevelopment.com/digital-divas/2893-the-top-5-best-steroid...
LOL Yep read that article many a time! Still have yet to try Cheque drops ....
https://www.chaosandpain.com/tips/just-how-badly-do-you-want-to-win-not-...
What was interesting was his Maxibolin dose! It was a mild drug in the 80's that females took, but at high doses of 80mg a day it worked nice! A Tom Platz favorite over Dbol!
Never heard of it!
It was a mild American anabolic that was discontinued around 1985/86! Used for the most part by girls! It came in 2mg pills, but soo did American winny pills back then. Worked good in men taken in higher doses of 8mg-40mg a day. Wasn't too popular, but some liked it. Apparently that Pete G. loved it according to that story. Anyway, was like a cross between proviron & anavar if they had a baby! I saw a video once of Tom Platz saying he liked it better than Dbol.
You'll like this video!
https://youtu.be/bssrddBV07c
Tell me bud in your powerlifting circle of friends whats the average Anadrol dose they tend to take out of curiosity?
I'll PM you
RustyhookerSounds fake as fk. 10,000 mg a day? Lol...no...
5 iv bags dripping anabolics as show prep? No...
I agree... Must be fake! Wasn't old American Anavar only 2.5mg a pill w/ a #1401 stamp on one side. The one discontinued in 1989! Even at $15 a bottle how would he be able to afford it! Minimum wage like $3.35 an hour back then! Maybe he did 100mg or 1000mg total of all gear a day. Guy must have added too many zero's 00000 to the story!
When he had his bypass surgery a different article in md ran it had other people vouch for his insane doses....i dont know about the iv bags stuffs about but the dude did take handfuls of orals mostly var...why lie about this shit the dude sold golds for 100 million what does he get from it
Rustyhooker10,000mg ? We got folks in here jaundiced and liver values sky high on 150mg a day. Its yhe fishing story. Shoulda say the one i hooked! It was the dize of thff e boat!
Scott mendelson training for his over 1000 lbs bench was taking 1 gram of anadrol a day....hooked on what the guy wasnt a very successful Bodybuilder as he was as a business man...who the fuck would even take 10 grams a week while eating once a day and think thats ok and would get you anywhere ..the whole point is that guys in the 70s 80s were willing to do stupid shit to get big just like now ...who would use cadaver gh or monkey gh ...those old timers did and it jacked some guys up real bad ...back then universities would pay these guys to do trials of all kinds of stuff to see what it would do.... Arthur jones was doing experiments with dbol thats how mentzer and Casey jones got hooked up with him... Arnold's 3 dbol a day line is a bunch of crap you dont end up needing bypass heart surgery from that
Before eroids i was a ptominent member at amother ug forum, i done alot of guinea pig work with designer oral steroids, in alot of cases i was one of the first in the world to try them to see what and how they work.
Im talking over 15 years ago.
I never paid a cent.
All ancillaries were provided and anything needed for health alongside them aswell.
I have no ill effects still to this day.
Not even elevated liver enzymes nothing.
Had high blood pressure and a few gyno flares but nothing serious.
I can imagine them back then with nothing ancillaries wise just taking shit with out knowledge of sides etc.
Free orals blood work and ancillaries sounds like a experience you'll never forget...did they tell you what any of them were? I did my fair share of them...mtren, superdrol, tbol methly test were a few that slide by where im from...there was a prohormone company that gone obviously i they had some prohormones that were somehow steroids that were a modified progesterone i think is what it said this was when every couple months they were banning the new ones methlyonealpha i think it was.. Very potent i new guys on gear that were jealous over the gains but i really don't know what the hell it actually was that and the mtren were strong af
You must have a hell of a lot of balls to be doing that stuff mate! What did you find packed on the most strength that you trialled or have run in terms of orals overall?
RustyhookerI hear ya. The great grimm was just called out often as a great exaggerator. No doubt fools go nuts for no real payoff. Look at bostin....
True true
Oh Shit I skimmed the article but didn't see that part - He was the creator of Golds Gym was he?! Lol
Franco & Arnold were re-knowned for taking handfuls of orals back in those days before they knew how liver toxic they were.
Exactly! arnold stated a bunch they thought more was better... More volume ..more more protein...or but they never thought to use more gear right lol
I would like to say that I really don’t know. I really couldn’t tell you. I would tel you what I know and I’m pooping.
RustyhookerOh shit! Gahaga
Ah, the classic "we took less back then".
You are taking gear because you are competitive person, now dont tell me its just a little.
It would make you look bad to admit that you are on a shit ton on gear just to look the same or worse than the rest.
Common sense and the uncomfortable truth.
Im ready for your downvoting......................
RustyhookerWell good thing offtopic doesnt lose karmas! Lmao!
The old dudes were really open bout using gear. It wasnt as frowned upon as now. Now iui ts all myoplex protein bruh. Lol
Test, primo, dbol, winstrol was most common.
They could cross the border and get other stuff.
They generally say they took less than they did.
Some old school guys ive spoke with say 3-4 grams was the go though back then.
Pyramid pinning schedule.
Pyramid is actually coming back.
These days we get our gear and want to blast it is as quick as possible with preloads and kickers etc for that fast immediate result.
Pyramid is starting off as low and slow as possible slowly and gradually upping the dose to peak dosing then tapering down slowly and gradually on the way off.
This actually works a treat and helps pct recovery times aswell.
My PCT & rebound is easier when I pyramid
Mentzer looked the best imo.
Hes one of my all time favs...although i think his training is bullshit he even states in one of the books he wrote his most productive workout regime was a bi weekly split very similar to arnolds just with the high intensity stuff ...if you add all the warm up sets its just a pyramid like everyone else was doing...but great bb sad about him and his brother
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One of the most underrated guys of all time. His brother RAY had an outstanding physique too.
Ray had some big ass arms. Interesting he died just a few days after Mike.
That loss killed him mentally; he never recovered!
Well if that's the case he was mentally weak to begin with, because if he didn't understand that competition was decided before any of them took that stage regardless what shape they were in .
Then he didn't deserve to be champion, Arnold showed up in just good enough shape to stand on stage, everyone new it , the judges, the fans, the other competitors . This was Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 80's the man pissed excellence, America loved and still loves him. It was over the moment he showed up, and taking into account that he has been out of the BB game for years it really was impressive.
I just watched it on YouTube. In this show Mentzer is just as big, much harder (especially in the mid section) and way more symmetrical.
After rewatching the show imo Chris Dickerson who placed second looks like the winner to me. Nohomo
I’m a huge Arnold fan but that’s how I see it.
It’s damn cool though we’re even debating it this many years later.
Imo the best physique ever in an Olympia is Lee Haney.
Poor Chris Dickerson got really screwed in 81 Olympia too. I just watched a clip on youtube! Seems like everybody is booing in the backround! Politics
https://youtu.be/zNw83ky_0h8
Yea Dikersons been screwed a few times.
Nohomo ( pun intended)
He did have a good physique though and he was the best poser on stage.
Guess the whole gay porn thing ruined his legacy. The guys calf’s were sick.
Yep..I always thought Menzer had a weak Chest too compared to Arnie's. Imagine if Arnie trained for 16 weeks instead of 8! Wow.. I really wonder if he used Tren on that prep?
That’s true but his legs were bigger.
AnonI don't know what they ran but I have heard than ran lower doses of what they ran than many run today. And I have heard this more than a few times.
Manateeswimmer5678Man Frank Zane and Mike Mentzer were cheated out in my opinion. For Arnold to come back with short time to prep and win was pretty sad... Frank Zane will always be my favorite BB and it's awesome to see he's training people in his home gym which by the way is epic!
RustyhookerTren...1963. Guys like dan duchaine posted their cycles openly and they werent big at all. Beginners run double what they ran at that era. Genetics and purely bustin ass was the key
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenbolone_acetate#History
I heard of guys taking tren they learned it from the Russians ... cadaver hgh yes...they all had docs with scripts for most of what they got i think they started going into vet roids chasing haney...shit Pete Grymkowski was taking 10000mg a day a gear mostly anavar primo test deca dude was a monster...there was even a doctors study on him at a university...A friend who is quite a bit older had a muscle mag from the late 70s early 80s and it showed big lou taking a hand full of orals a day...I think there were some hard workers but people are people and people lie so im pretty sure guys were taking alot more gear than they let on
Hell yeah, highest dose back then was I believe 500 a week. That was back when anavar was real and they were I think 7.5mg a dose. You took 2 a day and that was enough to blow the fuck up. All work and food.
Now it's all drug and pizza.