posted Sun, 11/06/2016 - 05:51
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+ 1 uh oh, crashing hard....
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Finished up cycle three weeks ago. Dropped over 10lbs. Used my standard pct protocol. Waited two weeks after last test-e shot, started clomid at 100, nolva at 40. Finished up week one, and weight is just falling...I even incorporate creatine at start of pct to keep weight on.
Strength is still good, but soft all over. I believe clomid is legit because vision problems and emotional.
Cycle was:
DECA weeks 1-8 at 300mg.
Test 1-14 at 500mg.
Dbol 1-3 at 30mg.
Wondering if I'm too old to recover...so tempted to pin some test...:(
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Update: I believe my nuts have grown a little bit, but haven't had wood in at least two weeks. Not sure I can even get it up, but I have zero sex drive to go with it. :/
I wonder what blood work will say.....
I'm sure it will say test is crap...
the guys below have you with the calorie maxing........... if your having trouble with the appetite jump on some GHRP-6
Best advice i can give to anyone who wants to keep the wheels rolling year round if still cycling (not trt).. is to jump on a Peptide combo ie... ghrp-6 and CJC 1295 wo.dac the MINUTE they start PCT.
before i went total Blast/Cruise this was my method and i didnt lose anything while off AAS....... this keeps your mindset in place for eating/training correctly ALL YEAR... not just that few weeks whilst "on the juice".
I'm using pharma clomid. Never actually noticed vision issues in the past, but only ran it 50mgs a day. Only ran DECA for joint relief. My elbows feel great on it.
RustyhookerGood to hear on pharma. I've had a rough time with garbage before. Top shelf or pharma anymore.
Don't be scared to go 6 weeks pct if you're still shakey. We post a basic 4 weeks pct but hard chem like tren, deca, no can take extra time to recover.
How long should I run clomid at 100mg? I was going to drop to 50 for two weeks, and run 25 a day for a couple months...hate this shit. I'm having major girlfriend issue right now and its making me depressed.
Rustyhooker2weeks is where I've kept it then 50 til finished. Along with nova 40..40...20 til finish. For a while now I've used low dose aromasin in there to help.
Usually week 3 is my depressed crappy week. Horney goat weed helped with sex. Any health store had it.
Yesterday was shit. Felt myself tearing up after my gf and i had words again. If this is what its like to be a woman, wow! Did gain three pounds, thinking creatine holding water. Have not had morning wood in a couple weeks.... :(
I have had visuals with pharma and UGL. It all depends on the person and the dose
RustyhookerAgree. Some cycles the visual is a strong issue. Others, not noticeable for me.
unreal89Well next time if tou run npp you get relief much faster just a heads up
It's natural to drop a little bit of weight post cycle, but if you think it's falling off too fast I'm gonna bet your diet is the culprit. Have you dropped your caloric intake since getting off?
Also, just as an aside, from what I've researched Clomid causes vision problems in in a very low percentage of people. I've never heard of anyone using this as a benchmark to determing if their Clomid is legit. Just saying.
RustyhookerSounds like not using pharma pct.
unreal89So you ran deca for 8 weeks whats your logic on that?? Doesnt kickin until about week 6 ..
Youre weight will stabilize shortly, the first two weeks after a cycle is when my weight drops, and with test and nandrolone you definitely were/are holding a decent amount of water. Just keep your cals up right where they were when you were on cycle bulking and keep them there for IMO 2 months after the cycle before dropping down at all. The creatine is a good addition, that was always a staple for me for pct and something i still use today after i finish a cycle to keep some extra water. And just remember you cant recover like you could on gear. So for me if on cycle i was doing 20 sets for back id drop that to something like 16 max, drop everything by 3-6 sets. Keep youre intensity up though. Get some bcaas to sip on when your training as pct is such a catabolic time. Deca is a bitch to recover from, but it should be well out of your system at this point since you only went 8 weeks with it.
Check this out, by doing this when i used to pct i managed to never drop more then the water i was holding, very little if any muscle. https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-succe...
I would give it atleast 3 months after you complete pct to gauge if you recovered or not. Recovery can take a while, sometimes a very long while up to 6 months. I wouldnt start pinning test 3 weeks into pct, week 2 is when i used to crash, and it would be about 6 more weeks before id feel back to normal so just keep on keepin on. If after 4-6 months your test levels are still low then think about seeing a doc for trt.
Dumped all the glycogen retention you had on cycle, hence the weight loss. Keep cals up and if you feel like you have been hit by a truck back off on the training a bit, but keep the cals up regardless.
bigmurphBlood work then see what the doctor says
I've seen men older than this recover without issues.
How many cycles have you ran?
Do you know what your natural test was prior to cycling?
Ya megaT is/was like 55 and would recover and have natty test levels of like 700+. But while correct pct protocol is extremely important, genetics play a large role in if one recovers or not. Genetics pretty much rule all in life.