posted Tue, 10/09/2012 - 21:00
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Should I cruise or PCT?
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I'm 46YO and reading up on cruising....I understand its for people that don't produce enough natural endogenous testosterone while off cycle.
How much is enough endogenous testosterone?
Looking at my bloods before I went on cycle....
S OESTRADIOL 57 pmol/L (<160)
S PROGEST'RO 1.4 nmol/L (0.7-4.3)
S TESTO 10.8 nmol/L (9.9-27.8)
S SHBG 36 nmol/L (15-40)
cFreeTesto 193.99 pmol/L (170-670)
DHEAS 6.0 umol/L (2.2-15.2)
I not sure which one is endogenous testosterone but everything with the word Test in it seems on the low side of the scale?
Any thoughts?
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thanks all for your support. I think im gunna try run it past a doctor and see the reaction.
tread-mGame over and I'm test and hgh to satisfy both sides of the axis....it is called an axis afterall. Hit a brother up if you would like some guidance love to help with these.
big decision bro... No one can tell u the answer but you... Goth pretty much said it, but honestly I get my dad (62) test e and have him on a trt schedule and he has never been in better spirits ever... For real the man is almost in too good of a mood for me 1/2 the time. My mom has no idea. He does one shot a week test e at 150. I am not recommending a blast to him at all. Maybe I'll amp him up a lil here in a few months when I see his bloods and talk to him more about exactly what he wants. Now if you choose to go w/ hrt, you may need to talk to the wifey... That involves hgh and daily injections. Just my opinion and experiences have taught me that you cant do something that your hiding everyday w/ out getting caught eventually. Maybe a lil talk w/ the wife is in order. Draw her a bath after kids are in bed rub her shoulders while u both sit in the tub, maybe wash her hair for her.(she'll love that) then very slowly bring up a conversation about a commercial you saw on tv about low T. Judge her opinion on that, and that will tell ya if you should proceed w/ what ur doing or maybe you can actually talk to her about it. She'll probably surprise you w/ understanding and encouragement regarding the fact that she gives a care about ur happiness? Just a thought, hope it helps!
AnonI guess Id ask how you felt before cycle ? Strong, lacking? normal ?
Im still very uneasy with the decision to cruise, but its been amazing for my joint pain.
Still its a big commitment to say now for 30 more years Ive got to inject 1 or 2 times a week. Makes me feel very dependant
I was suffering severe depression before cycle which nearly destroyed me. Since going on cycle i'm feeling great, im going to buy a boat and get back into water skiing. No more 300mg efexor XR anti depressants. Its a massive decision to cruise but without it im screwed anyway. Dammit, what to do??? I hate getting old...... this might turn back the clock a bit for my young family of boys. Pinning behind closed doors and hiding it from my wife would have to change as well.......Someone please talk me out of it.....
AnonI dont think it would work as a secret. My wife knows and shes supportive of what Im doing because shes seen the change. Hopefully your wife sees the change in you and you can explain what it has come from.
You're a cruiser for life at this point----otherwise known as HRT. If you've done previous cycles or otherwise have a history of high-dose AAS use, you may as well stock up on Long-estered Test and settle in for the long-haul.....Dose will be dependant upon what your affinity for AAS receptivity is. Go with what makes you feel well and functional, but keep it civil during cruising to make your blasts more effective.
Based on ur Statement that He icruiser for life and save something for blasts,"you are one I need to
Thread with-
After several years of consistent growth withAAS in mid 20s, I took several long periods of time off. We are talking several
Years with little training. Always stayed in pretty decent shape - never let myself go to complete shit-
After visiting doc and learnin I'm severely deficient at 40 and pretty much accept HRT for life now-
Question is- you talk about cruising and blasts-
Does that mean with my natty test fucked, I should be ON some test all the time with an occasional BLAST of other compounds?
I never was into just one product, I always combined several like, primo dept, whinny , deca and test .
At time, thought I was taking at right periods and always did pct.
Because of these products- I changed my natural build of thin with no muscularity to a
Muscular build.
Now at 40- and new to eroids- just trying to learn the vocabular last few days and your cruise and blast
Caught my attn.
As 40yr old - with past experience who will be on lifetime HRT,
What advice could you give me for "blast" periods and what EXACTLY does blast mean
And look like?
Really looking forward to any feedback and sorry to babble-
Just looking to get right info and seems I've come to right place-
I agree with everything here.
OP also once you jump on the HRT train if you aren't under a doctors care it is a good idea to get bloods ran often to dial in your exact dosage bc right now you estrogen looks pretty good but you will more than likely have an increae in it once you start taking HRT. Once you get all your dosages dialed in then you can back off on the bloods but still get them periodically to make sure the protocol is still correct.
Best of luck with whichever road you take.
For someone about to HRT how often is often on bloodwork in first year-
Keep in mind my test and free test are 1/5 the low end normal after taking real cycle- followed by ALL fake .
I fell of cliff hormonally.
I'm 40 and and now in it to win it- getting excited about training and nutrition again.
So- how often should I get labs during initial HRT.
I plan to throw some deca in the mix, cause of joint pain-
But thinking a test blend and low dose hgh