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-1 Bulk Cycle - Help Wanted

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Need some guidance here. I want to bulk on this cycle. I’m going to eat 3500 calories and 200-220 grams of protein a day. I’m thinking kick start the superdrol and keep Tren high and test low. Would like to run Mast E for AI and to keep the muscle solid. I am 195lbs and 11% body fat. I’m open to switching EQ in for mast e. I have both on hand. Was thinking EQ for increased ginger but in eating 200g of protein pretty easy right now. I have taken Tren 2 times in the past and can manage the side effects. Open to ideas for cycle help. I won’t get offended so let me have it! I’m thinking of PCT after cycle even though I have been cruising on 125-150 test. I’m 37 and natural test sits at 600 so debating TRT or cruise to maintain some size for a bit after then pct. I have three kids and don’t want anymore so there’s that too. Let’s have it guys, need some help! Forgot to add HGH 4iu, 5 days on two days off.

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randomdude's picture

Mast isn’t an AI.

Holy fuck that’s a lot of Caber.

Best bulking cycle is eat a lot, lift a lot, followed by sleeping a lot.

JayTee123's picture

I am prone to high e2 on just 200mg of test I take AI 1to 2 a week based on sides and labs. Apologies I should have put AI in cycle but will continue based on sides. Kind of just thought that was understood. Just hoping Mast may help me lower amount of Ai needed. Caber I have in there 2x a week but only would use as needed based on labs.

tther's picture

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randomdude's picture

Go fuck off

4shitsngiggles's picture

Lol

Mback76's picture

Drop the oral, you're already planning on running tren. Thats a shit load of stress on your body you don't need. Mast is not an Ai, I like mast because I can run way higher e2 without sides but def don't count on it as an Ai. Running caber 2x without sides is a bad idea. Never take anything for e2 or prolactin just as a precaution. If you dont pull bloods or get sides before running an ancillary I think you'd be operating out of stupidity.

200mg test is too low not just for this but for any cycle IMO. Tren you'll def put on size but I'd be running a minimum of 500mg test. You're bulking, there are better compounds IMO. I'd drop the tren and run either deca for 20 weeks or npp for 16 weeks instead of the tren. Drop the oral, drop the idea of running caber just because of the gear you're planning on running.

Need pre bloods aswell.

JayTee123's picture

I’m prone to e2 sides. Just hoping mash can offset the amount of AI needed, should have added to cycle but figured it was kind of known I would be taken because I already take 1-2 times a week. I have labs prepared every 3 weeks to a month depending how things get. Caber I have at those numbers as a as needed but in Tren for me and my sides based on labs in the past will need at least 1 times a week at 200 and that’s based on labs and past. I do have NPP and may switch it out. Dropping the oral isn’t isn’t an issue and agreed. I have labs tomorrow and won’t start cycle for 2 weeks so pre labs is a must in my opinion as well and was already planned. I’m pretty confident labs will come back solid but won’t run cycle if they do not come back well. Running that much test with that low of tren has caused me issue in the past. I’m prone to e2 and that test just sits around as the tren takes up receptors and will give my gyno. Thank for the advice. NPP sounds like a decent run for this one.

creatinehcl's picture

There is no need and no benefit to overcomplicate things.
Run 600mg of Test and 400mg of Masteron (or EQ) per week; just eat, train, and that’s it. If you insist on an oral, take it only on training days as a "pre-workout" provided you aren't training seven times a week Biggrin and leave it at that. That is plenty of gear for growth.
If you aren't growing on this stack, look for the problem elsewhere, not in a lack of compounds.

Khandum's picture

Low Test? Mast as an AI, that's news to me? Do not use Eq especially with only 200mg Test, unless you like crashed e2. Caber twice a week is a recipe for disaster, there are other things you can take to help offset Prolactin climbing....idk maybe P5P?? Superdrol kick start, have fun trying to eat. I would leave orals for prep, and if not that then use it at the tail end of your off season, last 4-6 weeks. Do not use Sdrol, go with Anavar, or Anadrol (Pulse It), or even fucking Tbol! The Tren is just not a good idea, even if you used it in the past and know the sides, it's just not good for your sleep, which you need when trying to gain tissue and I'm sure your already well aware...hopefully.

JayTee123's picture

Yeah low test because I ran into issues on tren last time running 1:1. I’m prone to gyno. If I switch to eq I would lift the test.

For me Tren doesn’t rob my sleep just gives me night sweats which I just throw a fan on me and take the blanket off --. Caber was out in cycle as a as needed I should have been more clear. Thank you bro!

Bobangomango's picture

Kickstart with 20mg daily superdrol for SIX weeks with 400mg tren on a BULK PHASE? And then there's the preemptive caber dosing.

Please, pretty please, post your physique.

This is the worst offseason cycle design I have ever seen. I kinda want you to run it though so you can give us weekly updates lol.

Edit just because I forgot to actually give constructive feedback. I don't believe tren increases MPS any more than testosterone does, so I can't fathom a purpose for it on a bulk as your main anabolic. Then 6 weeks of 20mg superdrol daily will likely have you feeling like absolute dogshit with a mess of bloodwork - absolutely horrid way to start a cycle. Mast as an AI isn't great, primo and eq are better for this and also more anabolic. Mast can mask some high e2 symptoms through it's serm-like action, but that wouldn't be an AI. Your GH dosing is fine, I'd prefer daily over 5 times per week at 4iu, but it's still a positive.

If you were somehow able to run this without feeling like shit or doing massive damage to your health, then you're a genetic phenom. Amyloid plaque buildup and cardiac remodeling from 400mg tren over 14 weeks in a gaining phase also isnt something that would show up on labs, but with superdrol in the mix I'd honestly expect single digit HDL by week 6, which is horrible in your early offseason. If you're hellbent on running superdrol, run it the last 2 weeks of your bulk. Nobody I know uses it to build mass on, but it does provide a look that I haven't seen anything else rival.

Jockstrap's picture

200g is a bare minimum. I wouldn't run tren while adding mass. Save it for cutting. Relying on mast as an Ai in insane. Wheres bloods in there? Adding caber....smashed prolactin causes ED. So let's get prior cycle listed....needs work

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