posted Thu, 09/28/2017 - 15:24
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I just recently had an order seized at customs in Los Angeles - first time this has happened to me after many, many orders from overseas. Does anybody know if they start monitoring your address after the first seizure or am I good to order again?
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BOGUnless it's a order that looks like your resaleing your fine. They could care less if it's a few vials. I have had so many orders sezied but never more then few vials.
No. You get "only" a letter and their bloodworks.
Good ahead and order to the same address,............ let us know how it works out for you.
The answer is no. This is the answer that I have gotten from multiple members of the DEA. If this was regarding large amounts of cocaine, heroin meth and or Ecstasy the the answer would be yes. But they honestly don't really care about what we do. They consider it a victimless crime. Way too many of us are extremely paranoid which is probably the better way to think to avoid getting in trouble. But want to comes down to reading drugs and task force. It goes by a couple different things:
1. How many crimes are committed to get the drug
2. How many crimes are committed on the drug
3. How many overdoses happene Per year because of the drug
4. What is the chemical dependency of the drug
Now if you look at steroids for everyone of these questions, you will realize it's not considered a real problem. They are obviously not going to make him legal, but they are not wasting your time going after them. Now when I hear about a laboratory going on they obviously have to do something about it, but that's usually because it's organize crime related. The fact is that the DEA and FBI and each state officials have task force to go after individual drugs. They have yet to have any for steroids.
I am not recommending or suggesting that you talk about them openly or do anything stupid with them. They are still illegal and you need to remember that when you're handling them or using them. But most Bros are way too worried about something that a lot of cops use them selves I could care less about.
PPGFREAK - Thank you so much for your extensive, informative reply. I can sleep better at night now. Thank you for taking the time to give me such valuable information in making my decision on how to proceed. You're the best and I am grateful...
Great response. If you aren't producing or selling you really for the most part don't have much to worry about. Unless someone starts talking too much which is always a problem. The only person that knows of my use is my wife. Keep a tight ship and it won't sink. +2
Thank you Fusebox for your affirmation on the above advice... very kind of you to respond here. Gives me peace of mind that is priceless...
Good response! How can they prove you ordered it? Like you said not street drugs.
Solid info brotha- I will definitely attest to everything you just mentioned.
I dig reading your reasoning and methodical way of explaining things for people.
That is great to know, thanks for dropping some knowledge. Makes complete sense. I don't know anyone snatching purses to support their test e habit.
Now don't get me wrong, if someone orders 100 bottles of something they will handle that differently. Recreational use and distribution are two different things. If they confiscate 100 bottles and then try to deliver it to you themselves and you sign for it and get in trouble.... I would obviously not use that address again.
Most of the things that I order are in stealth. So I never worry regardless. The stuff we are using is also 10 times more expensive then testing any street drug and they are not budgeted to deal with this. Over the years I have also been put on TRT and have gotten HGH prescribed from an anti-aging clinic. That makes things 10 times safer. Because worst-case, I have a prescription for what I got. There is no law stating that you cannot buy a prescription to save money if it's cheaper than going through your insurance company.
Technicalities are your friend in this industry.
Yes technicalities are definitely a plus plus
ClassyChassisFWIW, I've gotten packs afterwards to the same addy I've gotten a letter.
Thanks ClassyChassis - I appreciate your response. I kinda thought I"m too small potatoes for them to care. WIth computers these days, you never know if your name goes on a list to be monitored.. I guess they don't have the man power to go after small time users... and like another comment on this string, many of them are users too! lol
No one really knows. Some say yes, some say no. Use good judgement moving forward. I think its unlikely due to volume and resources, but I'm no postal worker so its just a guess.
Rustyhookerrules state no locations.
If you order again to the same address law enforcement will deliver the next package lol
StevebUnless it was a crazy large order or soemthing that made you look like you're going to manufacture something illegal just forget about it they won't monitor you. And don't respond and act like you know nothing.
Thank you SteveB - I have never had this happen before so I didn't know what to expect. I appreciate you taking the time to give me such valuable advice on how to move forward. You have credit in heaven!
^^^ this! Deny, deny, deny.
I can't tell you how many posts I've seen where guys have asked if they should respond to the letter and some even asking if they should go up in person for fucks sake....