+ 3 Posting Test samples to be a Source on Eroids. ?????????
Ok.. considering what's happened in here over the last week I want to throw this up to the mod's and the rest of us.
- If your a source.- You have to post test samples. You have to show what your selling isn't bunk or
what ever.
a. Once a month ?
b. Twice a month ?
- You have a 60 day waiting period to be able to sell in here.
- You have to know someone in here to be able to get to sell here..
(meaning) You have to be a "known".. and not be an "unknown" to be able to sell.
I would think the mods would be able to figure this out.. I dont think it needs to be out in the
open to do this.
What the sources needs to do.. is be more open about what there selling,, what quality is
of the product, etc... I dont want to be buying from someone who is making this in there garage.
Purity of the product is what this all about.. The more open about how your making your product
the better your sales will be.. Not hiding about what your doing.
Naps posts there quality / laboratory results right on there front page.
Muta is posting his on his web site.
Shouldn't every source have to do this ? Shouldn't every source want to do this ?
( rant done.. if I f0cked up on this.. shoot me.. but I hope I was headed in the right direction with
the ideas...)...
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I get that.. but my reply on that question.. was they need a "new vial"...
I can explain that if you want the whole thing answer....
AnonAnd perhaps Im needing to explain to you, they dont need a new vial. You can send them a small portion of your vial, then if it comes back good you still have 90% of that very bottle to use and chances are extremely high that the rest of your bottles are good.
Two Level Rating system ?..
it shows up in the source section.. your able to buy from either..
People can see that you on the up and up and you post you results - oils and orals.
or..
They can take a chance with what their selling with out lab results.
(Buyer Beware)..These sources have not posted there lab results.. and can
not guarantee the quality of there merchandise ...
How many companies would now rather be in the top tier position
and then do the xtra lab work to get there product sold ? (even)
if its at a higher price ?
maybe this makes more sense ?
at its worst.. this slows down the crap.. makes the product better and
makes the sources have something to work towards.. while still be able to
sell there product to people who want try it out or what ever..
Anonit all falls back on the general Eroid's user as being ignorant bro. i get people asking why my tren ace is $55 a vial - and they seem set back. I show them the lab tests and they probably go elsewhere looking for a cheap alternative. Although you have a functioning, analytically thinking brain - a lot of people here do not.
Its crazy the way some may think alot of us before eroids were paying 100 to 150 a bottle. Yet if u give them tren at 55 knowing the good reviews and lab results ect ect tat they would look else where to save 10 dollar a bottle.
thats fine.. let them buy else where..(its going to happen anyway..free market and all of that)....
when they figure out that they bought crap, was under dosed or what ever.. they realize out that they should have spent the xtra money and bought from you to begin with... thats when you have a loyal customer.. a pissed off customer is your best friend..
Trust me.. im in this ball park right now.. Im the pissed off customer.. hence the reason I started
this post..
AnonI think it poses the issue of how backed up they will get. only handled a few samples a week. People should just steer clear of sources who don't have their gear tested - if not, they'll eventually learn when they start lactating from the primo they are using. The way I look at it is - its a tool sources are failing to utilize.. If you haven't noticed, the sources who do the most testing are ranked 1/2 - coincidence?
What about sources like Hulk and Myself who pay out the the ass, thousands of dollars to have every single raw we use tested.. am I supposed to halt production/stop my operation or risk brewing a bad batch because Beaker can only process 5-7 samples a week and I need 35 raw samples tested before I continue? I do like your idea's though..
AnonHey !! What the fuck !! His reply gets colors and mine gets black and white ?
No more chicken mcnugets for me mister, I want a steak and bottle of chateau le fit
i think the Mcnugets cause the color...
Anonnah its just homoness
I really understand what your saying.. like anything.. it would need to have the bugs worked out. I'm not trying to slow down business.. only the flow of crap that gets sold in here as real gear..
Anonmaybe a noticeable tab on the supplier intro that links a source to any lab results they have posted?
great idea. !!
the more lab reports they can show.. and esp over a time period.. the less people would
worry.. (i.e. .... X - source has shown that over the last 6 months they have been consistent with
there products ,etc,etc..).. this would be like a track record on how good there product is..
Great idea!
Good point..
I have always wondered why i haven't once seen a person post a pic of their lab
56tooHere you go bro http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4847717765351565&pid=1.7&w=260&h=176&c=7&... LOL
VewiYou can make any test look good, sure i like the idea like i said below.. However, there are to many what if's
How do you no like 56too said that what is getting tested at that high purity of 90% is just not for testing time.
Also why dose get tested all their gear? That's a lot of product to test. For some.
It still will be the honor system.. Hell what we saw unfolded the other day.. How will we no 100% certain that the test results were not fudge or the document changed. Or with sources making as much money as they do get buddy buddy with a lab technician or pay him to write up a fake reports with new dates.
I do like the idea, if there was a way to control it but there isn't--and to many what if's and so easy to change things.
This is a honor system--here on Eroids when it comes to sources. I just hope they are honoring us the customer.
56too"This is a honor system--here on Eroids when it comes to sources"
Which is what the purpose of the reviews and rating systems is and even that can be manipulated. And yes, you can have nut huggers posting great reviews for you however looking for bad reviews is one that cant be bought lol. So really looking for those tells a better story IMO
nothing is "perfect".. I think there needs to put a stop to buying shit and getting ripped off. I thought before I posted up the idea.. and like anything, it would need a tweaking to make it right or even usable.. but
the idea is there.. and like any good idea you have to work it to make it something. .. all of your points
are spot on.. the more we all add to this the better..
Muscleg33kI'm all for it +1
ok.. some idea's.. if your a source.. you have to show paper work ?
you have to have your source "ticket" validated by the web site ?
you have to have a valid source "eroids stamp of approval" ?
I dont know.. but think this is where its headed.. you want to buy bunk.. the
net is full of shams.. i would rather spend an xtra $5-10 or what ever get the real shit..
be safe and get results.. if that means less sellers.. so.. then less sellers.. it also means
better product.. better results.. and a bigger bang for the buck..
56tooBTW in no way am I expressing disrespect or insinuating that any of the ones that do are what Im describing below. Just want to make that PERFECTLY clear
I would think there needs to be random checks done by actual customers. Maybe the mods could handpick or appoint random members to send in samples that way it would be less likely influenced by crooked ass sources or dishonest members. I really don't know but I'm just tossing an idea out there so feel free to pick it apart and tell me what would work better. I do know the mods are already busy as shit and prolly wouldn't have time to do this but my 2cents anyway...
I don't know how many members would cooperate but this is the most practical and controlled idea yet!
I don't know how many would cooperate either but I would like to think that there'd be enough. I don't know brother.. That's the most logical solution I could come up with
Anybody?
As long as you can logistically police it to be valid through a third party tester, it's a great idea. The danger is there are people that work in labs, (like me!!!). I could come up with a lab report to read whatever I wanted to.
I have a friend of mine I talked to last night.. works in a very high end lab and ran a shit load of
questions at me and it got me thinking....What is the - quality of what your buying ?
If it said - Pfizer on label on the box.. would you worry about what is in the vial ? ..nope..
but since this is all under the table. you have no way of knowing what your using..
there needs to be.. ( rather there has to be) a way of showing what your selling isn't shit and
your not ripping people off or worse.. making them sick.. were all taking this shit for granted and
(hoping) that we wont get something from this later or what ever.. and you really cant do
this with out running tests of some sort....you cant.. the FDA or what ever would shit can
any company that didnt show a test of what there selling.. should we - in here - demand the
same thing ?
56tooAnd how will you control what gets tested. I could make a "special" batch for testing and just resume making a shit product IF THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING which I dont. I truly believe EVERYONE gets what they have coming and IMO sooner rather than later they weed themselves out as selling shit gear doesn't go unnoticed for long. Reminds me of the business I was in before, potential customers would ask if I had names and addresses of others who had used our services. I'd always tell them that I would be glad to but how would they know if I was just giving them names and addresses of only the people that were happy with the service?
AnonNo disrespect, but even if you make a "special" batch, you can't fake 80-90% purity. When you're in that ballpark, or even at an established source such as yourself, what do you get get after that point if you start mislabeling. You're risking tens of thousands of dollars for pennies on the dollar. You gonna make prop cost $2 a bottle production instead of $3? But like you said, Karma works its way back around, firm believer here.
AnonKarmas a bitch!
Vewi"Karma works its way back around, firm believer here."
well said.
Damn it 56 I already wrote that! Hahaha! I am so glad you actually said this it now has even more credibility.
56tooSorry bro LOL I didn't read any of the posts obviously, but yeah Im glad that others see the ramifications of implementing a policy such as this
Shit I am pleasantly surprised and glad you wrote it! It makes it valid in fact I think until that question is answered the subject is a mute point.
waltrI think that this is a good idea but would run into some logistical problems.
Say even just the top 20 sources are going to participate on a monthly basis and do this.
Let's say each source carries 10 different raw materials that they work into various finished products.
Monthly you would be looking at 200 samples that need to be tested.
Now think about getting that many samples tested. Beaker and Angus are able to provide mass spec testing for the community but in the end, steroids are not legal in the countries where the majority of business is conducted. Finding labs that are willing to do this testing for the sources is going to be tricky, I doubt it would be impossible, but it's definitely a notion.
Now that I'm done being a naysayer I'd like to mention that I would love to know that I'm using the purest, cleanest product possible when I put it in my body and would love to have serious quality control measures implemented across the board.
Anonthey do 5-10 a week, the pure volume is impossible for them to handle. Plus sources as myself, CENSORED etc are getting all our raws tested.. so figure 30 compounds at any new restock.. thats months worth of testing right there to set other people back.
this -
"Now that I'm done being a naysayer I'd like to mention that I would love to know that I'm using the purest, cleanest product possible when I put it in my body and would love to have serious quality control measures implemented across the board."
thats it..
I don't think it is a bad idea but I don't know all the logistics of whether it is feasible or not. Even when a source submits a sample for say testing it really doesn't mean a whole lot as far as concrete proof of their whole supply. For instance it is like the bait & switch con. A source as genuine product that he knows will test high so he sends it and it does test great. Everyone is happy then he goes and does mass production of a under dosed product or one of cheap quality. Everyone looks at the numbers from the great product and says "Wow my gear is fire", but we don't really know if it is the same batch that was tested.
The only way that is possible is to have a bunch of product laid out and the unbiased tester grab random bottles and then test them. That will never happen though.
Moving this post into general bro...... i want some action on this thread i think your idea is very valid and seriously sensible... +3 for that.
Now let this thread rip..................................................
sent you a pm man.. thank you !!!!!
VewiSounds good get ready to have maybe 5 sources. That can afford to do this every month and prices to go up. Not saying that's a bad thing at least you know what your getting. But be ready for a price in crease, getting those tested every month is not cheap. So it will be passed on to us.
well.. if the sources are legit.. wouldn't you rather buy from them ?..
or buy bunk and piss money away.?..
im not happy with either.. but the lesser of the two , is spend you money and
get what you pay for..
(I hear you,, but can you think of a better option ?)