+ 3 Posting Test samples to be a Source on Eroids. ?????????
Ok.. considering what's happened in here over the last week I want to throw this up to the mod's and the rest of us.
- If your a source.- You have to post test samples. You have to show what your selling isn't bunk or
what ever.
a. Once a month ?
b. Twice a month ?
- You have a 60 day waiting period to be able to sell in here.
- You have to know someone in here to be able to get to sell here..
(meaning) You have to be a "known".. and not be an "unknown" to be able to sell.
I would think the mods would be able to figure this out.. I dont think it needs to be out in the
open to do this.
What the sources needs to do.. is be more open about what there selling,, what quality is
of the product, etc... I dont want to be buying from someone who is making this in there garage.
Purity of the product is what this all about.. The more open about how your making your product
the better your sales will be.. Not hiding about what your doing.
Naps posts there quality / laboratory results right on there front page.
Muta is posting his on his web site.
Shouldn't every source have to do this ? Shouldn't every source want to do this ?
( rant done.. if I f0cked up on this.. shoot me.. but I hope I was headed in the right direction with
the ideas...)...
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We need a scientist here, that tests everyone's shit. Someone who works at a lab and isn't biased.
Lets make it happen gentlemen.
We don't accept sources that can't prove at least 6 months online business history, or have a known and reputable source vouch for them.
Test samples won't do much, sources could simply submit good batches, and sell bad ones.
Do not completely trust any source. They're all in it for the money, and don't give 2 shits about you.
AnonRecent events prove what u just said
BigBmajWhat about randomly selecting a product or two each month to have it tested?
I would happily pay $5 a month to know this sort of thing were happening. And as a collective we could perhaps do it easier. Or leave it like it is - it seems like the truth comes to the surface eventually.
AnonSee this is how I expect Eroids to monitor sources.
BY DOING OUR OWN F-ING TESTS !!!! like this ! Rest assured I will be getting this test randomly throughout, and all of you should be too.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/mutas-test-e-500-rocks-it-out
brother this is the internet and src's (or their trolls) can post whatever needs to be posted... I have seen perfectly good src's go bad due to everything from growing too fast to simple greed... This is the black market bro, plain and simple... No business degrees or business plans necessary... there is no 100% guarantee... A large number of these guys are only a step or two up from your neighborhood crack dealer. My advice is if you find a good source that you trust then stock the fuck up cuz that can change quick.
Bumped............. needs to be read again by our newer members, i cant believe you didnt get get 100s of karma clicks for that pearl of wisdom you dropped right there :))
LOL! C'mon bro this site is only recently getting back to business, we've been stomping the fuck out of the face-roids crowd and keeping membership lean and mean for the serious lifestylers :))
I wasn't around 9 months ago, but it seems as if you looked into your crystal ball on that one.
H is spot on ... thats the fucking answer plain and simple.
Let me just add this while im here....... lately the forums have gone ballistic over testing etc.... nothing wrong with that i might add if it keeps everybody happy!
I have my own testing facilities right here at home... WTF is he talkin about i hear you say!... let me explain... most of you know i have my 3 women team, all of them have zero fear about ANY compound or ANY dosage levels and we run on a sort of doctor/patient relationship... meaning i know EVERYTHING that is happening to that females body every step of the way.
Alright... ive been using that fking long i cant tell the difference if i shoot some bomb gear or some pond water... fact is my body is so saturated with year round use i am constanlty peaked so a little bit of shit gear aint gonna rock my boat none basically i just dont feel it.
This is were the women come in handy... far more sensitive to test and heavy compounds than any man they become the perfect testing equipment..... hit a women with 500mg of test ( long or short ester) it dont matter.. something will happen within a matter of days... so i can get a good idea if the gears good by instant increase in libido, clitoral megaly,... yes boys before you fking ask ALL these women have clits like a spanials ear and thats the best test of all for ALL testosterone products.... other signs are faster hair growth, nail growth etc, ..... when shorts like tren A , mast,winny,var are brought up results show really fast with vascularity being the easy way to judge.
So far in my time at eroids i have never had any bunk gear from any of our sources..... i dont use many mind, i like to stick with my known favourites..... and in this time i have only ever received SIX bottles that crashed.... i spoke with the sources involved in a polite way and ALL were replaced faster than you could blink with zero hassle..... i dont put my good source experience down to being a MOD because i havnt always been a MOD... what i will put it down to is by spending time researching the proposed source.... reading reviews for countless hours the speaking to other members about their personal exp with the choosen source, then speaking with the source direct to at least build some sort of connection before the transaction is undertaken............. works for me guys maybe give it a try for yourselves so hopefully give you a better experience with your gear deals.
Lmao!!
Yeah I tried to read the rest after this and it just didn't stick! I have never wanted to be a Nordic god so bad in my life before! Lets face it thicker hair than a rock star from the 80s, a body that never ages and gets less BF as he goes on, an attitude that strikes fear in the hearts of the villagers, and 3 hotties pinning over him! I have never been a religious man but I just became one. Lmaoooo!
LMAO!... its a "harder" life than you think brother, i get knocked about quite a bit
Okay Vike, so what you are saying is that we all need a personal Harem... Got it! Thanks, Great advice!! :))
Yep thats right bro...... even if it means dragging some whores of the street and chaining them to a wall in the cellar.... feed em once a day then pin the shit outa em!... soon as you see some swelling and vascularity around them "piss flaps" BOOOOOM!!... that gears good bro... on the other hand, if you no movement around the "honey pot"... BIN DAT SHIIT!!.... best advice i ever gave on eroids this bro.. you can take it to the bank lmfaoooooo.
LMFAO!!!!!
56too"ALL these women have clits like a spanials ear and thats the best test of all for ALL testosterone products.... "
LMAO! My wife has one of those Though she's not Spaniel stauts yet but I have to say I fucking love it, just more there for the pleasure OR maybe it's just my feminine side! LMAO
i added that sentance just for you my brother lol.... i fkin knew you would clock that!... we need to have a bar chat brother .. we would probably kill each other by laughing too much lmaooooooo
MakaveliCD7Thank u hllwdbdboy for the wisdom and truth of the matter!!! Thats exactly my take own the whole thing....I just told Novi almost the same thing.... The best thing members can do is go get their own bloodwork bc their body dont lie... It is what is.... U win and u lose that this black market
game I've lost plenty to gym rats and SRCs here on Eroids.... U roll with the punches.... This ain't a family ran business like Wal-Mart where u got a 100% guarantee on anything u buy in the store LOL!! I think ppl has a misunderstanding of just what this world is....These guys are lucky that these SRCs will make it right....buy bunk gear from the gym and see if u get ur money back...samecwould be said with drugs too.... U buy a gram of coke and it's cut too much.... Go to the dealers house and see how that goes LOL!!!! At the end of the day what we do is still illegal or else we could post up our personal info which some idiots do actually.... Thing is everybody needs to know there place in here and thats y we push RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH not for cycles and training but for SRCs and gear bc H is exactly right no guarantees.... If u strike gold u best stock up bc in this world !!!!!!!!nothing lasts forever....nothing!!! The best test is the blood out ur body so u have a piece of mind....all these other things SRCs do is a courtesy and whose not to say their results are not altered bc we live in a generation where a scanner and the right program and printer is all u need.... U want to know then go test for yourself like Novi said
RustyhookerIf I'm a new source....a dirty one of course....I'm sending my personal stash as the tested gear. Get that FYRE GTG FAST SHIPPED Crisco on the streets. Then liw dose it for newbs and all the folks with power get decent stuff to build fanboys.
How many tine we seen this happen? Often! And thats exactly why the good ugl brewers are all pissed off. Makes folks wonder why they dont just but pharma.
Case in point was that oil that looked like anal sludge 2mo back. Folks raved....gear went to toilette. Gear was reinvented. Gear pics xame out fully septic. I betcha $5 that source will reinvent. Thats why having this site is so important. Weeding out bathtub toaster brew.
Lol! I could just see a source sending some weak ass EQ to a rustyhooker with only 4 karma. Only to find out later that was Mr EQ himself fast48. Same goes for if Mr Deca himself Carlos Sexy GS Danger got some bullshit when he first came back.
LMAO! This is why you guys keep getting banned, none of you can stay on the DL! ; )
AnonJust saw this now:) lmao!!
taking a blood test or using a mass spec for the consumer is still after the fact. No food company
makes you test there food after you buy it. Its done by an independent source. Some where along
the line (in between the customer and the source) a sample should be taken to keep everything
on the up.
Flip that around.. I could take a vial of any source on here.. fill it with oil.(with out) any thing
else in .. get it tested and then claim this is what I got.. killing the sources rep..show lab results and
and so on..I would think that something like this would not be what any source would want..
AnonSources contributing it knowingly for testing purposes is shot out.
Why don't you find a logical way for customers to pool together small amounts of funds to sample various orders and have the delivery address set direct to a testing authority?
ClassyChassisYou are 100% correct that it is ludicrous for a source to knowingly provide that which is to be tested. But no matter what system you devise, there is no way to guarantee that corruption doesn't find its way into the process. Ultimately you have to take chances and develop relationships. We've all been burned along the way. Not naming names, but there are a few sources on here that have gained my trust. By their actions, sometimes under difficult situations, they have shown me what they are about. And even then, shit can happen. That's how life works. Newbs have it the worst of course. Same as they always have. Oh well.
But even if you made this a paid site, some nominal fee, 20 bucks for 6 months membership or something. And you found some trustworthy people with plenty of spare time on their hands to do as you suggest. How long would it be before the chink in the armor became exposed, until the weakest link was found? And then you really have a problem because people become even more complacent and trusting and blind. Because they think they're being protected. Ha ha. This would be a very successful model from the point of view of the scammers.
No, it's better to remain responsible for your own well-being in my opinion, in whatever way you can. If you can not do this, then you are prey regardless.
well.. being prey .. is where everyone is right now.. i'd like to find someway around that happening.
wouldn't be great to offer this web site as an example of how it should work..
AnonYou only need to provide about 1ml of each compound to the guys who operate the testing here.
If you're running 3 compounds, you're looking at spending $150-$225 total for peace of mind and just having your own samples tested. Send them without any input of who the source is so there's no chance the lab guy is friends with a source, whatever other scenario you can come up with.
That is the ONLY solid route you can take. If you're second-guessing the results posted by others, then you need to have your own. Simple solution.
Anonthey aren't accepting open samples, your blind approach brings up the discussion of sabotage. As you know as well as me, most high ranked members are tied to sources here, one way or another. If Noviceaas (example) sent in 1ml of some mexican gear from 6 years ago and posted it as "ALLIANCE TEST E" and its contaminated, 12% purity, traces of other hormones.. although you could argue it, it could also be counteracted/rebuttal'd saying it really was your gear and anything else you send in beyond that is specially made because you got caught. You would probably think it was my doing because he always hangs out on my page, although he has no affiliation with me.. Even though people know your gear is good, there will always be plausible doubt from there on out second guessing, the "what if." the same can be argued with low ranked members. Who's to say they aren't a someone's best friends account. Hell, most guys on here have friends who made accounts they really don't use, and im sure some have multiple accounts unbeknownst to BFG. So whats it matter if an account with 20 karma points posts a test saying ALLIANCE PRIMO is really NPP. It'll raise a shit storm in your neck of the woods, create havoc, costs $50 which isn't shit if another source wants to take you down - and they'll just never use the account again due to the public hate they might get. Too many ways to look at this brother..
AnonUghhhhhhhhhh. I meant that in the end the customer should find means to test for themselves for their usage.
AnonIn that case, I agree. I talk before I read 9/10.. im sure you understand the premise of reading 3 words out of 60 word email and responding based on what you think you need to say lol. All about time management!
AnonStop skimming my shit! See, that's why I started typing in fucking colors to keep your attention!
Then he read even less.. cause Muta don't like color.. I think he's color blind..
Anonlol
What was everyone doing before Beaker and Angus started testing the gear? Several of these sources are obviously trying to make a better product, they should be commended for trying to raise the bar, but these efforts should not be an indictment against everyone else as crooks. The tried and true method at the end of the day is your own bloods and experience. If someone is selling bunk gear it will get out, guaranteed.
Anondefinitely. As i said below - the main advantage is, we can call out suppliers who are selling NPP and labeling it as Primo etc. and seriously putting peoples health at risk
ClassyChassisI think what A was saying is that if you tested it then YOU would know. Forget about trying to verify it for others. Just gets back to the same problem. But it would fall in line with what I was alluding to, which is to be responsible for your own self, and don't trust others to do that for you.
And the test could specifically state that the sample was unsealed/compromised to forestall any of that kind of BS.
AnonI think the main thing we should take away from all this is our overall health. You seem old school and I enjoy reading all the advice you have given others around here - although im sure it goes unnoticed by some. Its just time to hold suppliers accountable for labeling NPP as PRIMO or selling contaminated gear because they don't give a shit about proper sterilization. In this case, the mass specs have proven to be very useful.
ClassyChassisI totally agree. And I understand how those of you who take pride in what you do would be frustrated at the un-levelness of the playing field as well as just on general principals. As you know, all you can do is just keep doing what you're doing. At the end of the day, your body of work will speak for itself.
that is a really good idea...would take all the bullshit out of worrying.
AnonEven if you spin the scenarios around, it doesn't matter. No source is going to submit product they know is junk or underdosed or even that they're unsure about, so it's pointless.
Who would you trust more about telling you their opinion about a Camaro? A Chevy dealership salesman that drives a Honda or your neighbor who's actually driving the car and bought one?
Is your question of scenarios plausible? Yes. There's no way to guarantee either one, that's why the sample group (customers submitting) needs to be larger.
If you're that concerned and think everyone is out to provide junk and community members are going to sabotage all sources, then that's why the human grade market is available.
ok. I bought the camaro..its a dog..what would should I do with it ?
the only thing I can do is not buy the camaro..again..
ok. other scenario.. there needs to be (for instance.) a group of ten buyers..
they pull from any of the top 20 sources - 2 vials.. could be anything..
they send those vials in to be tested..post results., chips roll where they may..
do it every 30 days.. if your in the top 20..be prepared..
( i like the idea.. just not sure how to word it..)
is that what you mean ?
Anonyeah but before buying the camaro you could read all the reviews on it and perhaps avoid the bad purchase. Whereas theres not a chance in hell the salesman is going to tell you not to buy it.
ha !.. i posted that same thing you just said... and there were people who still bought from
the junk dealer. I even asked why they did that.. I think i got like 2 replies .
but the reviews sucked. the replies on the sources were lousy.. and they still went
a head and bought .
AnonIt needs to be in the hands of the community, NOT the source.
Asking a source or taking their word for shit they submitted, is just ridiculous.
Let's say I'm a source selling underdosed junk and nobody knows it. You don't think I have the few dollars to go buy the highest quality product from someone else, gym or online, then rebottle it when it comes time to the 'quality' check?
The ONLY CREDIBILE test results are RANDOM SAMPLING, a sample from what the source believes is any old order. Anything submitted from us, purposely to be tested, is just absolutely not accurate.
Also, testing the raw powder doesn't represent the final result equally, AT ALL, either.
Look at the source you're referencing. Didn't they specifically take measures to create a false representation of their product? You think someone who does that is just going to provide bullshit gear for testing if they know they're being tested? No shot.
Anoni always enjoy reading your posts brother.
AnonIt's rare for me to venture out of Allianceville lol, but this entire mess is too big to not chime in about. It really damaged customer trust and relations with the top sources, myself included. I've been getting non-stop e-mails with people asking if we can provide bloods, lab tests, etc., and how to authenticate them and if we know perf. It really did shake a good part of the community with it being a top source who's done it.
AnonI am lucky that I never got around to buying from perf because I heard many good things.
I've seen sources run off with everyones money after they gained the members trust and i have seen many members get banned for trying to blackmail sources. Compared to the real world its not too bad in here though. Remember the people that got screwed over by enron? Bernie Madoff? the banks we bailed out? General motors? Hopefully we can build that trust again pretty soon.
AnonI can totally see that. I thought about this exact thing from my GH source on here. They seem to be working as I have the fat loss and some sides, but who the fuck knows. I almost emailed him but I didnt.
Perf's mistake def has shaken confidence and I can see all the top src's being under the microscope.
Just going to have to monitor the src discussions and reviews more closely and FR some of those ppl and ask questions. and of course, get tested more.
really? damn thats crazy