+ 3 Posting Test samples to be a Source on Eroids. ?????????
Ok.. considering what's happened in here over the last week I want to throw this up to the mod's and the rest of us.
- If your a source.- You have to post test samples. You have to show what your selling isn't bunk or
what ever.
a. Once a month ?
b. Twice a month ?
- You have a 60 day waiting period to be able to sell in here.
- You have to know someone in here to be able to get to sell here..
(meaning) You have to be a "known".. and not be an "unknown" to be able to sell.
I would think the mods would be able to figure this out.. I dont think it needs to be out in the
open to do this.
What the sources needs to do.. is be more open about what there selling,, what quality is
of the product, etc... I dont want to be buying from someone who is making this in there garage.
Purity of the product is what this all about.. The more open about how your making your product
the better your sales will be.. Not hiding about what your doing.
Naps posts there quality / laboratory results right on there front page.
Muta is posting his on his web site.
Shouldn't every source have to do this ? Shouldn't every source want to do this ?
( rant done.. if I f0cked up on this.. shoot me.. but I hope I was headed in the right direction with
the ideas...)...
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ClassyChassisThat totally sucks. Not like your job was difficult enough already or anything. I am so glad I'm not involved with dealing with people. You're a bigger man than I am. Respect.
WithdrawlYES! A source can send whatever damn sample they want and then use something totally different in their final product that get's sold to us consumers. It has to be in the hands of the customers and sampling the products they receive from the source. It would be nice if that wasn't the case but I don't see any other way.
I agree 100%
Anon+1... oh wait, we can't do that :/
AnonJust for good measure.... +3 for you glen coco, you go glen coco. (daughter's watch that shit all the time ugh)
AnonWe're squares :(
We should create signatures with our own +1's lmao
I think that is best if we (the users) put this in our own hands by getting blood tests as often as we can and posting them. Sources may want to get their raws tested for their own piece of mind, but that should be their call. I think the good sources would want to do this on their own anyway since if they sell a bunch of vials that are bunk, the reviews are going to show and their reputation will be in the garbage also and business will suffer accordingly. They shouldn't need to post their results since if they find a bad batch, they won't use it anyway if they want to stay around here. So in essence I think the current system in place is working.
Anybody can go bad at anytime, we just have to deal with it when it happens.
Honestly it isn't a bad post but it is a reactionary one. Meaning due to the recent source f*ck up! I really don't care personally whether even my source gets as many test as he did do. My bloods every month are sufficient now granted it does not sow the potency of all compounds but I have run enough good gear to know what to expect.
What I am considering after this deployment is retiring and contributing to this wonderful aas & hgh world my skills and resources. I am considering starting my own private company with some good well trained friends of mine expert in various fields of operations. This company will offer the services for a nominal fee to track down and get back any stolen money on larger scales that have been loss to scammers. Now when not if we find the scammers, and we will find them we will waive our fees if they have extra assets that will cover them. Just some food for thought for you members who feel violated with no where to go ;) Lol!
im not re-acting.. im just f-ing pissed !!!...lol..
Well I reacted because I was pissed too lol! I don't think that reaction is a negative thing, in fact if this makes sources think and contemplate it is good. Don't misunderstand my intent, that is why I said it is a good post. But would you have wrote it if not for the recent events? So therefore it is reactionary, and so were my comments, a lot of good input has come because of the post:)
Wow with that type of access to team with you and your friends all I can say is dam dam dam
I will tell you my friend, people around here use the term bro, brother etc. Some understand it and mean it most are full of shit and wouldn't be there if you needed them. It my field of work you develop like long brothers, because you know that even the government will having you out to dry if it means covering their illegal acts. so we have are own collation, brotherhood and network, to assure our families survival in every area.
BEST IDEA EVER!!
Lol
I knew you would like it you psycho path!!
AnonIm ready for a career change ;)
With your level of violence even I would be nervous to work with you ;) But I would overcome quickly!
AnonYou should have seen how violently I just devoured my roast beef sandwich !!!! GRRRRRRR
waltrWhy do I see that not ending well for all parties involved?
Well waltr you have a point but I am pretty sure I will come out of it ok
waltrRight up to the point where the police from the city you just visited show up at your front door asking why they have you on cctv dragging a guy out of his car at 2 in the morning at a stoplight in front of a burger king and stuffing him in the backseat of your rental car with a black hood over his head and peeling off like a bat out of hell.
Oh waltr you have far too much confidence in the local police and really don't anything about what we do. Of course this being a joke but if the scenario were to happen and we were that pathetic to craft such a plan we would deserve such humiliation
waltrAll my knowledge of special operations comes from the movies and Tom Clancy books.
Hollywood wouldn't lie to us would they?
I will say this the movies definitely make us cooler than we are lol. I always wondered why when they get shot the give a little cool grunt and then they talk in that cool voice. When I got shot I fell down a yelled like a little bitch.
LMFAO! I know I would have
I was never in combat but have been shot at, the guy that shot at me went on to kill three people.. When the bullets start flying shit gets real real quick..
One bad source that is top ten every 6 months if that. Prices we pay are 1/4 what we would pay on street and people are bitching for fairness? You guys forget this shit we are doing is illegal? You win some you loose some. Stop crying.
BOOOOOM.... i have to +3 you there brother...... fact is fact
angusI absolutely love how everyone has an opinion about how we should or should not do testing and the methodology that is used. The absolute #1 goal for us is to protect members PERIOD. Sure we try to make it the most reliable experience but the end result is that we run what we are sent and the report is spit out. There will always be people that, when presented with a system, will try to beat the system. That is human nature and is more evident in this field than most others. There will be some that try to use us as a tool to destroy others, and that is sad. There will be some that will use us as a tool to be better. And then there are those that will use us to be safer and that is what we strive for. We cannot control peoples intentions when they get testing done nor are we going to police the action and it is unfortunate if the results of testing are used for nefarious purposes, but we feel we are making a difference.....an impact....holding the sources here to a higher standard than anywhere else, and thus it makes it safer, and hopefully brings more and more people to this haven.
So the ultimate goal is for every member to know exactly what they are putting in their bodies. Or if they cannot know exactly then they have a good idea of reputation and empirical data from their manufacturer. it's all about YOU!!! and we want you all to stand up, and in a unified voice, demand the best.
AnonI always enjoy reading your posts brother. Meaningful and to the point.
Thank you for what you do for us customers here at eroids! Much appreciated
AnonWhat about if you post a legit lab test, it is reviewed by mods and if approved you get extra Karma
Then you can get into more promo's??
Or
What about Lab tested sources get some kind of icon or status. Customers can post their labs, attached to a source. Mod/admin approved.
If this source is a "lab tested" source they have to allow all valid labs to go up and as a result get more notice by customers with an icon, or special ranking, etc.
"Lab tested" sources are not allow to edit/delete any labs , only mods/admins and we can track total number of + or - labs over time via a graph?
Just throwing out ideas. ??
There's far more to eroids than Karma and promos dude....
AnonI'm throwing out ideas dude. As to how you can create a better system for all of eroids.
Feel free to give some.
I dont think that (Beaker and Angus) should be doing test for the public..(what ever they do is up to them.) but if its going to slow down people making money and for no real reason..then its sort of waste of time and money all the way around. I def see your point. your testing your raws..your posting results.. and to have to wait inline really makes no sense. This is something that only the sellers should have to be doing ..not the consumer..
I know I wouldn't you want to buy food and then take all of it over to testing lab to see if I could eat it .
AnonSorry I didnt have time to read all the replies so I dont know it this was covered.
I think you are on the right track here, but slightly wrong idea. I think what needs to be done is the members step up more with blood tests and mass spec tests of their own. The sources could easilly send out special batches for testing. But if the members of this site were more pro active in getting bloods and random syrum testing of their own I think the sources would know that they cant get away wirth one batch being good and one being bunk.
Another thing is the guys who run these tests should not allow one person or source to book up 3 months of their time. It should be one test per person per week maximum
AnonThis is becoming more and more petty. This post is not at all directed at you, I just wanted to quote what you just said because i've read it 3 times this morning. The user, being you guys is becoming more and more spoiled. Now sources who do want to check the quality of their raws before making 30,000 vials (me) are supposed to wait in line behind people who pay $50 to get a bottle from 3 years ago in their stash tested. (Yes, this is happening now) So whats more relevant; me seeing if im about to brew something thats pure shit that thousands of people on eroids are going to buy, or someone checking a bottle of Omega from 3 years ago - labs are posted on that omega btw. The more we give you guys as users, the more you want. If sources started selling at $20 a vial, all of a sudden $40 is just out of the question. One source offers tracking, we all are supposed to. One source updates statuses 140 times a day, we all are supposed to. Let me make it easy for you guys - stop buying from sources with a sketchy reputation. If they don't want to pay to have gear tested, they obviously are trying to hide something. Back to your comment - I'd like to know what everyone means by this. You can't fake purity. My Tren was 97% pure, you can't fake that 97%. If I were to underdose it since the public still thinks we're sending in "special" batches, i'd save about $2. Is that $2 worth people questioning my reputation HELL NO. hailrazor just got my primo random tested unbeknownst to me, tested higher than bayer, pure primo, no contamination. How would I know what I was working with if I wasn't able to get my shit tested? Im all for you guys being able to monitor what you're injecting in your body, but each week these threads become more and more "give me give me" At what point do you guys think about Angus' and Beaker. I clearly know how to ship packs and am not affiliated with the feds. I can name 3 members all with 200+ karma who are Feds off the top of my head. What happens when Angus gets his door kicked in when some noob ships him a vial that breaks and oil seeps through the pack? Its not the noob at harm - its Angus. To be honest, I'd say you're all very lucky they've went to the extent that they have, putting their own safety at risk to provide you a service. Again, no disrespect intended, novibear
AnonSir Muta, I understand your point and its certainly not a cut and dry issue, but I do think you missunderstand mine. I am not asking the source for more and more, I am asking the members to step up and take responsibility. As I posted below the premise of the site is member reviews . You can not expect the example you set at Mutagenics to be one that every source will follow. In fact I could even go as far as saying the dependabillity you show us could create a missconception that all sources are as honorable as you.
When you go to buy a car do you trust the guy selling it to you to tell you its great ? No you want to hear some reviews , some customer feedback . I could easily show you some rigged dyno or fuel economy numbers, but if people started testing them selves and started falling way below claims how long would it take before the car company had a problem ?
So thats automobiles as an example, this is an unregulated black market, and you and B-52 are suggesting people should just trust the sources to come up with their own proof ? No way, thats the problem here, the members are indeed expecting too much.
Reminds me of an old sales pitch u could get a good look at a tbone by sticking your head up a bulls ass but wouldnt u rather take the butchers word on it lol
AnonIs it really that well known that I love that movie ? or ar we just two master thespians meeting for the 1st time ?? LOLOL
Yeah well one time I let the butcher talk me in to two porterhouses that he had been "seasoning" for a few days . Those fuckers tasted and smelled like the did indeed come right out of the bulls ass , so NO I wouldnt rather take the butchers word for it ! ;)
you just spend $40K on a brand new car.. you expect the thing to run right..or am i missing something ?
I expecting the sources to do the right thing.. and not to sell shit to the consumers..
if it takes making a 2 level system.. then so...where is the harm in that.. separates the honest
from the questionable...I think thats a better and more fair to the customer...
you want to find a rat hair in your soup ?...
AnonThe whole problem here is that you "expect" .
Are you buying a car ? Does your gear have an extended warranty ? No you are buying an ilegal substance from a drug dealer whos face you will hopefully never see and out of which state or country you do not know.
Back to the car, a legitimate legal purchase, I asked would you only trust the person selling it to you to tell you its a good car ?
If theres a hair in my soup I just may call the dept of health, if theres a hair in your bottle of test who you gonna call ??????? Ghostbusters ?
if im going to put my body..in someone else hands.. I kind of "expect" that the product im
going to putting into my body.. is 100%.. or should i not do that.. I should just eat the soup and get sick..
then come back and ask for my money ?..
come on.. you know better...
I realize the rest.. but you know where were at with this.. there should be some level of
fairness.. or were all just buying crap...Muta's an honest person. Hulk and a few others..
but there are dozens out there who arnt.. you have to do something to keep that out
of the situation...
VewiThen go to a doctor and get on trt it is the only 100% you have.. I don't care this source does this and does that.. I've seen good sources good gear and boom gone their gear stoped being good..
AnonFair Smare you are living an a dream world. Again I stress this is not soup with an oversight commitee
Have you ever heard of someone ordering gear and getting nothing ? Is that fair ?
sure.. ordering and not getting a response.. not getting anything.. ok..
so.. then I would think that you would want some sort of lab test..Q/C etc.
Why shouldn't it be the "norm".. instead of being "one more thing" to do...
it cant hurt anything. may slow it down.. may keep the rip off artist out of here..
but that isn't a bad thing. you wouldn't anything to happen to you. and Im sure you
dont want something to happen to someone else..just because this takes more time
and makes thing a bit more involved. I think the customer should wait in line.
not the source.. the source should be at the top of the food chain.. not having to
wait for a customer to have the stuff that was just checked - rechecked..
and how you do that is with codes on the side of each vial.
For instance.. X-source.. has this batch checked...gets lab results..etc..
customer buy vial.. with code...you could even make it a code that only the
lab and the source would know.
customer ask's the lab.. here's my vial code number.. could you check it for me..
(save time and bs.etc.)
Lab sez.. Already ran that batch.. check codes.. good to go.. your fine..
(or something of that nature)..
(hope this makes sense.).
Anonand who prints the codes on the label for the vials ? Face it if a source wants to cheat they can and will, the only recourse and protective action is each other . Some sources are very ethical and Ive been fortunate enough to deal with them, but Id never be a fool enough to EXPECT that all would meet those standards.
blood test are one thing.. but for someone in the middle of no where.. how are they going to
get a mass spec done ?. or for that matter even know where to find a place to get it done.
Blood test's are more of hospital situation and easier to find then a lab that will do the work..
also the cost.. no one wants to spend $30+ or what ever on vial and then have to send it to a lab
to have it checked to find out that they spent ( $30X4 vials on buying bunk).
I think it more up to the supplier to make sure and to show what he is selling is quality..
not make the buyer do the work.. if your going to make profit.. you should have to put in the effort..
dont you think ?
AnonWell being in the middle of no where doesnt matter that much. I doubt you bought your gear from a "local source" so a sample can just as easilly be mailed out. And If I was sitting on 10 or 15 bottles of dubious gear then sending a few drops from one seems like cheap insurance. I assure you blood work is not for free. It takes a couple hours out of my day and then the cost of the tests, mailing a sample out for 75.00 seems a whole lot cheaper.
The thing is this site is built on the idea of member reviews, not the source having to prove themselves. As I said before if the members want to ensure good product the burden of froof lies in quality reviews and actively getting tests our selves.
not a few drop.. its a new vial..( $50+ $75 for the test.).. no biggy.. but to some guys in here thats some dough..
I think its more like Muta mentioned.. he does his home work.. why should he do that.. and then
have to wait to have worry about his customer (for what ever reason) doing it all over again,
just because there curious.. I see what your saying.. but that means..(like you mentioned)..
its up the buyer to figure this out.. which leads us back to where we are.. were the guinea pig
for what ever we buy...... you like that idea ?
AnonThey dont need a whole vial to test it for you
And think of it in relative terms to your whole cycle, then it wont seem like so much money.
Or do you think its cheaper to inject 4 or five vials of bunk in to your body ?