posted Wed, 08/21/2013 - 05:24
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Man I'm 3 weeks into my test cycle and my libido is low as fark. Before I started this cycle I was busting nuts every 4 hrs, now shit ain't happening.
I've been taking 12.5mg exemestane twice a week from the beginning to control potential bloat.
Is this a problem of high estrogen or low estrogen? Should I bump up the aromasin or drop it?
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-first cycle
-test cyp 600mg per week (900mg first week- failed frontload)
-12.5mg aromasin 2x per week after injections
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AnonIts so hard to guess at, especially if you havent lived through what your body is doing right now. I really cant stress enough getting a blood test to measure estro before you try to adjust any dosages . Its just so easy to guess wrong and send your self further down the tubes.
Yeah getting labs would be ideal but it's not available to me unfortunately. I do think its a problem of low estrogen though. If it were high estrogen I'd have a moonface and cry at chic flicks.
We'll see how next week goes AI free...
RustyhookerNasty novi is right on! +1
Cant beat science
AnonUnfortunately I learned the hard way that is is tricky shit to be guessing at. Even right now I just had a great workout after a month of pure crap. After getting my latrest Estro test I switched AI's and am getting back on track after only a week !
^^^ Great advice. Gotta get bloods done.
A good friend of mine got his bloods back yesterday. He's a older guy and has been using test gel for TRT and he's been running EQ at 400mg's per week. His total test was over 2,000 and his free Test was 52. His estro was over 400!!
Now tell me how in the hell his levels were that high on a TRT dose gel?? I'm thinking his EQ is probably Test
Reminds me of me. I would try this HCG 250ius twice a week and see what happens. This is how I solved my crash in libido. I have gone into a long explanation elsewhere but this is what I would do, well actually I would go get bloods done first but this dosage of HCG is not going to mess you up. It could however up your libido. If you didn't have bloods done before this cycle you don't know where your estrogen was at. So you either could have exasperated it by the testosterone. Or killed it with the aromasin but I doubt this theory.
Its something i have never experienced.....
Ive never really got into all this Ai business and i think most people are getting or being made to feel paranoid about the need for alot of them.
Ive ran many cycles over the years and have always used my best friend PROVIRON and have never looked back.
But this is just me, i know a lot of guys are different
I have had the same problem. Wasn't sure if my estrogen was too high or too low, I have no blood labs in my state so it was like a guessing game. Said fuck it and started using cialis.
6.25mg aromasin wrecks my estrogen after taking. then I get high estrogen symptoms later in the day. the problem with aromasin is it only has a 9 hour half life
switch to adex 0.25mg every 3 days and have no more issues
silver389Just throwin it out there...runnin mast with my cycle and have no bloat whatsoever and although in not a walking erection it rises on the drop of a dime. I've ran ai's in the past and shit got funky with the root but nothing crazy...i like the mast its doing exactly what I wanted and helping with strength.
12.5mg 2x a week is insanely low dude, 12.5 to 25mg ed is idea for aromasin. I was on 90mg prop and 12.5mg ed of stane and my e2 was 57, the top range was 42. Get bloodwork and i guarantee it will be high estro
25mg ed of aromasin would COMPLETELY DECK most people's estro levels at even huge doses of test. Read the thread, he started his AI day one. You may be estro sensitive, but it's unlikely he'll need doses like you've suggested. You may also have had crap aromasin.
AnonFunny, for ages now I have always recommended having two different brands of AI on hand. Glad I took my own advice, it just bailed me out. Waiting to get more in the mail would have sucked. IMO the pre cycle check list should deffinitely be AI times two of different brands
Aaaah brother..... our favourite subject raises its ugly head once more lol..... i have to laugh when i see all this stupid Ai dosage levels.... no such thing when we were younger so we had no chance of fucking things up and even before an Ai was needed the cycle was over because we either couldnt afford or couldnt source enough gear.
Anonnow suppliers are arguing with all these studies that 25-50mg of AROMASIN is too weak and "this study shows" it hardly decreased estrogen.. 12.5mg of Real ARO x2 a week and my Estro (which im overly prone to) is rock bottom <20
I seriously cannot remember the last time i ran any Ai bro... genetically not prone to high estro but i do like to keep a nice level for anabolic abilities... mast/provi keeps me right now so i wont change that until its broken.
That's probably the issue, "REAL" aromasin. 25mg of it and I'd struggle to complete a basic workout my joints would ache so much.
Started AI too early, week 3 or even 4 on that dose of test. Also suggest running ed or eod rather than rice per week. Doing it the way you are your levels will be up and down all the time.
Drop the aromasin for a week, see if that's solves the problem.
X2^ you crashed your estro or dropped it really low. Big indicator is fatigue and sore joints. Ai shouldn't start on long esters until week 3-4 min. +1
Will drop the AI, but have a problem running eod as I can't divide pill into fours as it crumbles up (with a pill cutter)
ClassyChassisChop it up real fine with a razor blade and eyeball 4 equal piles.
use your teeth and nibble the tab.
Razor blade? Just an idea.
I have this problem also with the pill cutter
Exactly. .
Well give more Info first are u doing prop or enan or cyp? And also I recommend u doing aromasin ed or eod..
How much test are you taking? Thinking you might have crashed your estrogen. I get muscle aches....like soreness at the insertions...when my estrogen is low. Also lethargy and decreased libido are a problem when my estrogen is too low.
I'm not experiencing muscle aches but I'm lathargic as hell, can sleep at any time whereas precycle I had to force sleep to get 8 hrs
I agree ^^^^ its a balancing act if estrogen is too low ='s low libido and lethargic, and if estrogen is too high ='s low libido and lethargic. Atleast for me