posted Sun, 06/09/2013 - 16:47
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Really need help from experienced users (ANAVAR & PH PCT)
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Currently on a pro hormone and an AAS cycle.
Pro hormone i'm taking Cynostane dosing at 90mg every day, split into 3 doses of 30mg taken evenly through out the day.
Also, am on a 100mg anavar cycle dosing at 50mg morning and 50mg evening.
My cycle so far from begging to end looks like this.
Cynostane
90/90/90/90/90/90/90
0/0/0/100/100/100/100
Currently on week 4 and am experiencing test shutdown symptoms (depression, no motivation, libido etc) and am very curious about the most OPTIMAL PCT for my circumstance.
After doing research it seems as if a combination of NOLVA and CLOMID looks like it may work. However, really need some HELP with the dosing I need and when to take it and for how long.
Would really appreciate answers. thanks.
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juice12345678No test = no manly feelings between the legs
Would it be advised to cut off this BS oral cycle and begin a pct of Nolva and Clomid dosed Nolva: 40,20,20,20 and clomid 100,50,50,50 or would there be a more optimal dose of this?
StevebDo a basic PCT of Nolvadex and Clomid that is posted everywhere on this site. And if you're worried about losing hair you could also do a low dose of Test and take topical DHT blockers.
RustyhookerVar is a dht...hair loser.
StevebNot sure what you mean but Anavar is very mild on your hair. It's considered one of the safest when it comes to hair loss along with Primo and EQ.
RustyhookerYessir.. Mild in nature. Dht is what kills the hairline, prostate etc. Im basically proving your point to the op about using Test as base. The Op is using dht.
I've attempted to combat any hair loss to what i took so far with Nizoral shampoo, using it every other day, been told it blocks DHT reaching hair follicles to an extent.
If you really want to save it, you need to use Minoxidil, generic Rogaine. These things are all life long and need to keep a schedule or your back to square one.
From personal experience, I used Minoxidil for three years. It cost $100 annually. I gave up after three years and said fuck it. You never think you'll get to that stage but it happens out of nowhere, and then life is good.
Buildbigger86MY man RUsty always on top of his game lol
StevebWhy are you not taking TEST?
I'm one of those guys that are worried about potential hair loss, i know.
Was just curious on the optimal pct plan i should take, to recover what i've done so far. Like in terms of nolva , clomid dosages etc mate.
RustyhookerWhats most important to you
A-balls never working again
B-hairline
Prohormones cause shutdown and estrogen buildup. They mimick real hormones. The cycle you proposed..or acyually are on has you shut down. Bye bye Mr winkie.
Start pct. Research. Do it correct.
Clomid 50...50...25..25
Nolva 20...20..10..10
Daily dose for that week. 4week total
Would my test levels jump back to normal after that pct, or is there any additions i need to take, also do i take the nolva clomid with meals at the same time or space them out during the day matey?
RustyhookerI ran the nolva at night. Nolva blues can be avoided that way. Clomid i split half am/pm
Buildbigger86see big i told you man BALLLS wont work
Thanks mate, and deffo A. Would you object to a clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20 in my circumstance? or would that be subject to side effects? i feel that im shut to the max, and have run nolva before on low dosages on a previous cycle but did not seem to do much.
RustyhookerYou're only on a few Weeks and clomid/nolva are superstrong. You can run full dose if you choose.
I've never run Nolva along with Clomid before, just plain nolva at 20/20/20/20 for a previous Var cycle. would a higher combined dose of say 100/50/50/52 clomid and nolva 40/20/20/20 be beneficial or would it come with unwanted sides as appose to the dose you recommended? really am struggling with these low test sides.
StevebTest is the foundation of steroids. If you're not going to take Testosterone, DON'T take any steroid. It's really stupid and pointless.
Buildbigger86Dont know much about cynostane but can speak on var and first of all you should lower dosage to 75mg's a day also var stops your natural production of test in your body, people think because it doesnt convert to estrogen they do not need to run test with var or eq etc... But test is the base of every cycle. So first off i would suggest grabbing a bottle of test prop and a bottle of test test eth or cyp. Since your body has not produced natural test in 4 weeks now you are correct it is shutting down and all your symptoms named are all from suffering low test levels. Test give you a feel of well being which will intern motivate and make you feel great also test and libido problems ed are the easiest way to tell someone has low test levels that is why you see all the TRT commercials discussion low test levels which lead to sluggishness, motivation, and loss of libido. Grab some test brother and you be fine. I need helping sourcing it out. Just PM me i will help my man.
Thanks for reply mate, i do acknowledge that is true but am really on the fence about it due to the possibility of hair loss and I am very prone to it and am already shedding (wanna keep what i got for a lil longer).
Just was wondering on a good PCT plan for my cycle, could you comment on that?
Buildbigger86Listen to me my friend you are starting to do more damage to your body internally then you know. YOU HAVE TO START TAKING TEST SERIOUS MAN YOUR GOING TO FUCK YOURSELF UP BRO.
Also the hair loss comment If you are going to go bald no matter then all AAS'S do is speed up the process of that for you you understand.
If in your genes No one in your family evers goes bald you can run tons of test and whatever and you have a very good chance of never losing your hair.
Right, i get ya man but say if i were just to stick to what i've done already and see it through for two weeks, is there any good doses of Nolva, clomid (or combination of two) to jump on just for recovery purposes & then next time I consider a cycle will be sure to include the test aspect to it. Cheers mate.
Buildbigger86Honesty if your going to run test i would just stop your cycle right now. NOT BEING A DICK AND I HOPE YOU DONT TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY. But your just fucking up your body and you should stop now and come up with a better plan
You're right, I really am fucking my body up, i am stopping the cycle now, is there at least a decent PCT to take for some recovery to what i've done already.
StevebWHY? It wont do you any good so just stop now and do your PCT to fix the damage you've done already.
Sure, yeah. So aside from the TEST is there any good dosages of Nolva and Clomid i could take to seek a decent recovery?
Obama BlowsYou're gonna find slight variances of the same PCT bro. I use Nolva 40/40/20/20 & Clomid 100/100/50/50 and I've never had any issues and I bounce right back